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Which are the best escort sites reddit recommends? (legit escort and sex worker platforms)
If you're considering hiring an escort, there are a few important rules to follow to ensure a positive experience. Firstly, make sure to only see well-reviewed providers. This helps ensure that the provider's photos are accurate, they host in a safe location, they provide the services you're looking for, and have good hygiene. Secondly, never send money in advance of an appointment. There has been an increase in the number of deposit scams, with providers at every level of reputability being caught participating in these scams. It's best to only deal in cash to protect yourself.
Which are the best escort sites reddit recommends? (legit escort and sex worker platforms)
Admid the recent shutdown of Mega and Cityxguide, I'm sure many of us providers as well as hobbyists are kinda freaking out & wondering what to do or where to go next. So I figured I would make this thread and share a list of other websites that people could use as an alternative or just for the meantime. Please feel free to comment and add any additional sites you know of. I hope this helps and takes of some of the stress.

  
Skipthegames.com (Free)
  
AdultFriendFinder (Hookup site but also has escorts)
  
Seeking Arrangement (Best for sugar babies, college girls)
  
Adultsearch.com ($9.99 monthly plus $4.99 per top up)
  
BedPage (Free)
  
Slixa (Free)
  
Ashley Madison (MILF's and married women)
  
Privatedelights.ch (Free)
  
Tryst.link (Free)
  
Locanto.com (Free)
  
Afterdarkads.com (Free)
  
https://www.classifiedads.com/ (Free)

How To Find A Sex Worker For You (Best Escort Sites Reddit Likes Most) 
If you're considering hiring an escort, there are a few important rules to follow to ensure a positive experience. Firstly, make sure to only see well-reviewed providers. This helps ensure that the provider's photos are accurate, they host in a safe location, they provide the services you're looking for, and have good hygiene. Secondly, never send money in advance of an appointment. There has been an increase in the number of deposit scams, with providers at every level of reputability being caught participating in these scams. It's best to only deal in cash to protect yourself.
To find reviews of providers, check out independent, third-party review sites like The Erotic Review, USASexGuide, ECCIE, TNABoard, TheOtherBoard, Ourhome2, and BestGFE. These sites are specific to certain regions of the United States, but there are also review sites for other countries, such as Canada, the United Kingdom, and Australia. Be wary of relying on reviews on sites that also serve as ad platforms, as the reviews may be unreliable or biased.
Advertising platforms where you can find providers include ListCrawler, SkipTheGames, AdultSearch, Tryst, Slixa, PrivateDelights, Eros.com, Porn Companions, Alluring Intros, and Pamela Peaks. However, it's important to note that these sites have had both real and fake ads, so reviews should still be your primary resource when possible.
Screening and verification services like RS2K and Preferred411 can also help ensure the legitimacy of a provider. These services charge a fee for their services and provide an ID number once you've been screened or verified. Many reputable escorts will accept your RS2K or Preferred411 ID as proof of screening, and providers listed on these platforms have been vetted for authenticity.
Last night I had sex with a TS escort
So for the last few days, I was browsing the internet for TS escorts in my area. I saw a page of a really attractive one, so I decided to ring her up and book a session. I dialled in her number but because I was really nervous, it took me a few minutes to get the courage to call. But I did it in the end and booked a session for later that day.
Last night I had sex with a TS escort.
For several years, I have had the fantasy of having sex with a male-to-female transsexual, and a lot of the porn I watch is "shemale" porn. These fantasies involve not only having sex with them in a dominant position, but also giving them oral and getting fucked my them. I am not attracted at all to men and masculinity, and I still enjoy having sex with biological women, so I consider myself to be mostly straight.
So for the last few days, I was browsing the internet for TS escorts in my area. I saw a page of a really attractive one, so I decided to ring her up and book a session. I dialled in her number but because I was really nervous, it took me a few minutes to get the courage to call. But I did it in the end and booked a session for later that day.
So I got ready for my appointment. I had a shower, dressed appropriately and drove to her place. When I arrived, I buzzed her apartment and she let me in the building. I walked up to her room and I was greeted by the same beautiful TS woman I saw in the photos online. She was wearing sexy lingerie, stockings and suspenders. I gave her the money (£150), then she asked me to walk to the bedroom.
Once I was in position she started feeling my groin area and I immediately got an erection and removed my clothes. I saw her bulge growing more and more then she removed her underwear. Her penis was around 7 inches long with some good girth to it. She said "play with me, baby" so I did. I gently stroked her semi-erect penis which soon became erect. During this, we were kissing.
I then got down on my knees and sucked her hard cock. To be honest, it didn't do much for me but it was still enjoyable and I believe I did it well, as I deep-throated her cock for several minutes. I reckon I could give porn-stars a run for their money. I think I should add that this was my first time ever touching a penis other than my own.
When I was done with that she grabbed a condom and put it on my dick. I bent her over the bed, grabbed some lube, applied it generously over her asshole and on my cock and started fucking her hard while giving her a reach-around. This turned me on so much that I almost came but with some concentration I managed to keep control of myself.
Now this is where things got a bit awkward.
I asked her if she could fuck my ass. She said okay and I got in the doggy style position while she grabbed a condom, lubed up my ass and her cock. She tried to put it in, but because I have never had anything up there before, it was simply too tight for her cock to fit in there. She tried it for a few minutes and when she managed to fit it in some of the way it hurt like hell so I had to tell her to stop.
She apologised, but I told her it wasn't her fault. So for the rest of the session I went back to fucking her then I jerked off and came while sucking her cock. By this time the hour I had paid for was over so she offered me a shower, which I took, then left the building.
Although I really wanted to do this and enjoyed it, I do feel slightly confused about my sexuality, and it has been on my mind a lot overnight and for all of today. Before they were just fantasies but now that I have acted on them, I'm not sure where to go from here. I do not feel any shame at all, just confusion.
Has anyone here had sex with an escort without a condom before
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Has anyone here had sex with an escort without a condom before?
Im a 20 yr old virgin and I've heard numerous amount of times how dull sex can be with condoms, especially for the guy. People say you should ALWAYS use a condom with an escort but my issue is I just cant imagine going my ENTIRE life only being able to use a condom lol. I feel kind of bad for people that have had to use a condom their entire lives. So i dont think im gonna be using a condom every time I have sex with an escort. Maybe im overreacting but idk i've just heard that sex with a condom isnt that great so I dont wanna miss out on good sex lol.
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WARNING to all tourists, foreigners and ever residents who seek escort services in Dubai from Craigslist, Backpage or Twitter
10- AVOID ALL THIS TOGETHER BY KEEPING YOUR JOHNNY IN YOUR PANTS and wait till you go back home. You are better protected in your home country and usually know your territory better. If you're a resident and you get the urge, be patient and try to find someone reliable by applying what is mentioned previously. Don't rush, examine the ads, reverse check the photos, call the lady, speak to her, ask her for proof etc.
WARNING to all tourists, foreigners and ever residents who seek escort services in Dubai from Craigslist, Backpage or Twitter.
UPDATE: Alright, so some SP's manifested themselves through PMs saying that this thread will seriously damage their business and my guess here is that those are the reliable ones and not the fakers. I hope I'm right. If so is the case, why don't you follow a method used in North America and some South East Asian countries where you actually take a photo of yourself, not necessarily naked, but at last one that can corroborate your features with you holding a paper with the current date and nickname on it CLEARLY WRITTEN so that people know you're not fake and make sure you update the date written on the paper quite frequently. This will root out a major part of the problem here.
Now back to the matter at hand.
1st incident: About a month ago, someone conveyed to me upon his return from Dubai that he called what seemed to be a lovely WHITE CAUCASIAN British young woman communicating with a British accent. She answered him and they agreed on the details. Once he arrived there, he noticed something was off but decided to go anyways. Door opens and the lady is hiding behind the door. He goes in and she turns out to be an African lady. He refuses and attempts to leave. She holds him physically and asks him to give her the money. A lot of pushing and shoving ensues and she rips his shirt wide open. She was desperately trying to get her hands in his pockets and snatch the money. He was finally able to push her but his arms were all scratched and he was slightly bleeding in certain places.
2nd incident: Another classic, SAME MODUS-OPERANDI, a co-worker went to Dubai and again, nice hot American Latino lady communicating with an American accent. He shows up there, I think he said it was in a classy area, Marina I guess. Door opens, she is behind the door. He barely steps in and she a very fat African with fake blond hair. He tries to get out and she grabs him. They physically fight, she's half naked and she threatens to scream in the hallway and pretend to call the police. He was a big guy and quite fit so he had no problem pushing her away but she managed to damage his cloth.
3rd incident: This is one is a CLASSY scam someone told me via email after he posted a rant on Craigslist Dubai about how frustrating it has become to find a reliable person and how CL has become a scam jungle. His story has to do with a Twitter scam though. Check this out guys, especially those who are Arabic speaking. He says he wanted to try an authentic Arab escort, so after thoroughly researching, he noticed that most Arab ladies are reachable via Twitter. He is of Arab decent so he speaks the language. He sends the lady a message and she explains it's 1500AED for a full night (from 9pm to 3am in the morning). She asks for 500AED advance in the form of Etisalat prepaid card. After giving her the card via Twitter, she blocks him. He opens another Twitter account and contacts her, she says she's sorry and that she blocked him by mistake because she's overwhelmed by guys who are not serious and didn't know how to unblock him. They agree to meet at 9pm at Emirates Mall. She then tells him that it's not nice and shameful to take the 1000 from him in public and that it would be better to if he got the rest of the money in Etisalat cards and gave them to her right then. He senses a scam so he refuses but apparently she was brilliant at arguing with him but still does not budge. He asks her for her phone number so he could talk to her and verify over the phone. She refuses and argues the reason why she can't. Anyhow, he ends up making a mistake and gives her his phone number so she could call him. She then she switches to nasty bitch mode and starts threatening him that he wasted her time and that she could have had one client at least by now and therefore she wants her money otherwise she's going to the police with her story and that she's got powerful friends and they will hunt him down. He blocks her, deletes both twitter accounts and dumps the phone line.
Now obviously there are some reliable escorts in Dubai but they are extremely difficult to find and the fact that there's no review forum does not help things at all.
So being someone that travels frequently to Dubai and I do care about the safety of others and the reputation of a city that I like, here are some important things to bear in mind if you are going to call an escort. 
1- Do not call or contact via Whatsapp unless you have double checked the photos in the CL or BP ad on tineye.com or google reverse image to make sure that the photos are not stolen from other websites. It's not a 100% reliable method if employed on it's own, but it will help root out 90% of the scammers.
2- Do not accept communication by Whatsapp only. Request a phone call to hear and question them. If they say they're from Italy, ask her questions try to pretend you speak Italian etc.
3- Avoid having your profile picture on your Whatsapp account when you contact one. Don't use you home country Whatsapp, use an Etisalat prepaid and activate Whatsapp on it.
4- Do not accept to go anywhere or have her come to you unless she sends you a live photo with her holding a paper with some personalized inscription written on it. Face photo is not a must but at least so you can see the skin color and body shape. If they refuse or try talking you out of it, DON'T GO. You're the customer, she has to comply with your demands. 
5- Before knocking on the door, examine the floor and memorize the exit stairs, elevators are not a reliable choice if she's grabbing you. There could be two of them, be careful!
6- If everything has checked out to be OK so far and you are at her doorstep, DO NOT GO IN, I repeat DO - NOT - GO - IN until she shows her face and body. Keep a distance from the door. If she insists that you come in and refuses to show herself, RUN. It's not worth it.
7- Do not keep anything valuable on you. Take only your money and hid it in your socks.
8- If she catches up with you or grabs you, don't be afraid to show hostility and fight back. If she threatens to call police don't chicken out, she won't do it and she can't do it even if she pretends to. Those African ladies are all illegals and there residencies are expired. 
9- Don't be afraid of her threats or that she will shout or accuse you of rape. Again, she can't and she will not for the same reasons mentioned in the previous point.
10- AVOID ALL THIS TOGETHER BY KEEPING YOUR JOHNNY IN YOUR PANTS and wait till you go back home. You are better protected in your home country and usually know your territory better. If you're a resident and you get the urge, be patient and try to find someone reliable by applying what is mentioned previously. Don't rush, examine the ads, reverse check the photos, call the lady, speak to her, ask her for proof etc.
11- If you REALLY want to have sex with a hooker you could, you know, just meet one of of the thousands of hookers in any one of the hundreds of bars across the city? courtesy of DownRUpLYB 
I hope this will help. Be safe guys and don't put yourself in a bad situation. Dubai is an international city and they cannot weed out all the rotten ones. To the tourists, enjoy your trip to Dubai.
DAE think that the avg Indian girl is not as hot as compared to other countries (mainly western), but then suddenly there is a set of extremely, ridiculously hot Indian girls
Unless you have a white fetish, I find the top level of Indian girls extremely stunning and attractive on par if not more with all other western countries and above oriental girls, however the avg is quite low
DAE think that the avg Indian girl is not as hot as compared to other countries (mainly western), but then suddenly there is a set of extremely, ridiculously hot Indian girls?
Unless you have a white fetish, I find the top level of Indian girls extremely stunning and attractive on par if not more with all other western countries and above oriental girls, however the avg is quite low
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Im a muslim and im a lesbian
ofc in muslimanity, we believe that gay people deserve to rot in hell and that its Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve and all that. i realized that i like girls very young actually, i would often catch myself just having a small crush on a cute girl i saw on the street or a beautiful model on the tv but it got much more serious one two years ago. i actually started developing genuine feelings for a few girls in my class and it makes me feel ashamed and filthy yk? its not common at all for muslims to be gay and tbh im not even religious at ALL and thats not good since i grew up in a really religious family and culture and people often shame people A LOT A LOT A LOT if they arent willing to just do anything it takes to make God happy and they be mean to u and give dirty looks and all that so ive been very quiet about this for a very long time
im currently secretly dating my best friend who i had a crush on for a very long time and she likes me back too :> shes bi
i still often feel like ending the relationship tho because of my fear of getting caught and ofc just the fear of being gay
im a muslim and im a lesbian
ofc in muslimanity, we believe that gay people deserve to rot in hell and that its Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve and all that. i realized that i like girls very young actually, i would often catch myself just having a small crush on a cute girl i saw on the street or a beautiful model on the tv but it got much more serious one two years ago. i actually started developing genuine feelings for a few girls in my class and it makes me feel ashamed and filthy yk? its not common at all for muslims to be gay and tbh im not even religious at ALL and thats not good since i grew up in a really religious family and culture and people often shame people A LOT A LOT A LOT if they arent willing to just do anything it takes to make God happy and they be mean to u and give dirty looks and all that so ive been very quiet about this for a very long time
im currently secretly dating my best friend who i had a crush on for a very long time and she likes me back too :> shes bi
i still often feel like ending the relationship tho because of my fear of getting caught and ofc just the fear of being gay
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Is online dating a waste of time for young men (like 18-22? )
I’m an average looking guy and I’m 20M. I feel like online dating is a complete waste of time if you’re looking for anything other than a hookup or FWB. For me, I’m looking for something more long term and have my age range set from 18-21 and cannot find any women who are looking for something long term. The profiles are generally not filled out at all, only have their social medias, or their pics are just them at bars or night clubs. It’s honestly kinda crazy because when I set my age range from 24-30, it was a night and day difference as profiles were fully filled out, they explicitly mention what they’re looking for, and a variety of pictures that showcased their personality was used.
Is online dating a waste of time for young men (like 18-22?)
I’m an average looking guy and I’m 20M. I feel like online dating is a complete waste of time if you’re looking for anything other than a hookup or FWB. For me, I’m looking for something more long term and have my age range set from 18-21 and cannot find any women who are looking for something long term. The profiles are generally not filled out at all, only have their social medias, or their pics are just them at bars or night clubs. It’s honestly kinda crazy because when I set my age range from 24-30, it was a night and day difference as profiles were fully filled out, they explicitly mention what they’re looking for, and a variety of pictures that showcased their personality was used.
This has been my experience across nearly all major dating apps. I’m sure my photos could use some work but they’re not that bad and my profile is otherwise filled out. Also this post is mostly just for discussion and speculation as I’ve basically given up on OLD and would rather focus on irl interactions where women are (ever so slightly) more receptive.
edit: also just want to disclaim that this post isn’t to attack or generalize women. Just my experiences as a guy
Is Roblox Online Dating That Big of a Problem
I recently saw these two people harping on two people (probably little kids) who were online dating in a Roblox game. I was very confused as to why they were just wasting their screaming at two kids doing pretty much harmless things. This lead me to wonder if online dating was really that big a problem. I can understand people saying that you don't know whos behind the screen. I found a rather interesting video about it which made some very good points. One of which would be, "why Roblox?" There are so many other platforms with so much more users that predators could use. There's no chat filter so real-life meet-ups could happen much more frequently. Out of all of these platforms (Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, etc.), why would predators choose Roblox?
Is Roblox Online Dating That Big of a Problem?
I recently saw these two people harping on two people (probably little kids) who were online dating in a Roblox game. I was very confused as to why they were just wasting their screaming at two kids doing pretty much harmless things. This lead me to wonder if online dating was really that big a problem. I can understand people saying that you don't know whos behind the screen. I found a rather interesting video about it which made some very good points. One of which would be, "why Roblox?" There are so many other platforms with so much more users that predators could use. There's no chat filter so real-life meet-ups could happen much more frequently. Out of all of these platforms (Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, etc.), why would predators choose Roblox?
The next topic mentioned was one that I found quite interesting. If the majority of Roblox ODers are much older than they claim, wouldn't the predators just be dating other predators? An interesting paradox that I find could be looked further into. Along with that, there's another side of ODers that are little kids trying to be cool or edgy. That's completely harmless as it's almost guaranteed that nothing's going to happen. I'd like to hear the opinions of others on this topic.
How much casual sex is really happening through dating apps
So who exactly is getting all this casual sex? How much is it really happening?
How much casual sex is really happening through dating apps?
It seems like a lot of women report that many guys are on dating apps for casual sex, and women don’t care for it as much. Yet Tinder has the reputation of constant hookups.
So who exactly is getting all this casual sex? How much is it really happening?
Also, why do guys seem to think being rude or crass to women somehow would seduce them?
I feel bad for the guys and girls who are in for a relationship, because the horny is so strong that it makes things worse for everybody.
Dating games recommendation
I played Wylde flowers and loved it until after I got married then I got bored. I loveee the dating part where you’re talking to someone trying to progress your relationship and trying to impress! it’s just so fulfilling
Dating games recommendation?
I’m a romantic looking for a new game with some sort of romance aspect but still have gameplay. The dating sims where it’s a virtual novel is just not fun for me. Are there any games romance storylines?
I played Wylde flowers and loved it until after I got married then I got bored. I loveee the dating part where you’re talking to someone trying to progress your relationship and trying to impress! it’s just so fulfilling
**for PC. I really only use Steam for my gaming. I also have a switch but prefer the pc
Anyone else not really into “just chatting”
I’ve noticed more and more that some people seem to be on the apps just to “chat”. I find myself perplexed by that. You’re on a dating app. If we match and have a decent conversation, in my mind, let’s meet in person (obviously this is a bit harder at the moment because of Covid, but regardless) and see where it goes. If we end up just being friends, that’s totally cool with me. But just matching with people so you can “chat” and never have it go anywhere? That doesn’t make sense to me. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Anyone else not really into “just chatting”?
I’ve noticed more and more that some people seem to be on the apps just to “chat”. I find myself perplexed by that. You’re on a dating app. If we match and have a decent conversation, in my mind, let’s meet in person (obviously this is a bit harder at the moment because of Covid, but regardless) and see where it goes. If we end up just being friends, that’s totally cool with me. But just matching with people so you can “chat” and never have it go anywhere? That doesn’t make sense to me. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
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Are Dating Apps Just a Waste of Time
I just went back on the apps after a 3-year absence (otherwise known as a failed relationship). I remember actually meeting people off apps before, having actual dates. I'm finding I'm just having lots of texting conversations that go nowhere, and I'm not meeting anyone. It's been 2 months. I'm also female (and 39, maybe that's why). It really feels like a waste of time. Is this dating apps now?
Are Dating Apps Just a Waste of Time?
I just went back on the apps after a 3-year absence (otherwise known as a failed relationship). I remember actually meeting people off apps before, having actual dates. I'm finding I'm just having lots of texting conversations that go nowhere, and I'm not meeting anyone. It's been 2 months. I'm also female (and 39, maybe that's why). It really feels like a waste of time. Is this dating apps now?
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Dating multiple people with online dating
I had been messaging another girl, "Clementine" as well and kind of dropped off after my date with Ethel, because I was not quite as keen on meeting other people. However, I have a horrible habit of feeling very attached early on, cancelling plans with other people, and then it not working out with the person I got too attached too. Because of this I decided to go out with Clementine and had a fun time, made out, etc.
Dating multiple people with online dating
Last week, I went on an awesome first date with a girl, "Ethel". We really clicked, talked for hours, made out, and made immediate plans to see each other. This is certainly someone who has girlfriend potential (I am looking for a relationship), and I am so excited to see her again.
I had been messaging another girl, "Clementine" as well and kind of dropped off after my date with Ethel, because I was not quite as keen on meeting other people. However, I have a horrible habit of feeling very attached early on, cancelling plans with other people, and then it not working out with the person I got too attached too. Because of this I decided to go out with Clementine and had a fun time, made out, etc.
Now I am wondering whether I should have done this, because I really just want to see Ethel (however, I know that one date doesn't mean much). As I am someone looking for a relationship, is this not a good way of starting things out? In a weird way, I feel kind of guilty (which is INSANE, I know because I barely know any of these people). Am I just overthinking this?
I'm rather new to dating and just wasn't sure of the ethics of this.
Wtf happened to online dating
This is from a straight man’s perspective in a medium sized city. I remember going on various dating apps 6-8 years ago and if you put in good effort on your profile and were respectful you could land a couple dates a week minimum. You would also have a good time and things would often progress to a relationship. After a several year break I come back and it seems no one wants to meet in person anymore. Matches are fewer and most women only want you to send them money and refuse to actually talk about dates. I thought it was only me but I have seen several other guys complain about this. What happened?
wtf happened to online dating?
This is from a straight man’s perspective in a medium sized city. I remember going on various dating apps 6-8 years ago and if you put in good effort on your profile and were respectful you could land a couple dates a week minimum. You would also have a good time and things would often progress to a relationship. After a several year break I come back and it seems no one wants to meet in person anymore. Matches are fewer and most women only want you to send them money and refuse to actually talk about dates. I thought it was only me but I have seen several other guys complain about this. What happened?
Edit: thanks to everyone for the responses and advice. As for dating from meeting people in publicly yes I’m aware it’s generally more successful if not necessarily easy. I’ll probably start putting more effort into that and just use online dating as a helpful tool.
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Dating app statistics show than women are significantly more picky than men. What is your explanation for this phenomenon
A study that got data from dating apps showed that although men swiped on 61% of women, women only swiped on 5% of men. This implies that women are more selective, and presumably (but not necessarily) have more options, hence their increased selectivity. Is this indeed the case? And if so, why do women have the upper hand in dating? Why isn’t is more equal in terms of distribution, with, for example, Men and Women both only swiping on 25% of each other?
Dating app statistics show than women are significantly more picky than men. What is your explanation for this phenomenon?
A study that got data from dating apps showed that although men swiped on 61% of women, women only swiped on 5% of men. This implies that women are more selective, and presumably (but not necessarily) have more options, hence their increased selectivity. Is this indeed the case? And if so, why do women have the upper hand in dating? Why isn’t is more equal in terms of distribution, with, for example, Men and Women both only swiping on 25% of each other?
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I wish there was a rating system or way to leave reviews on dating apps
I mainly had this thought after going on, hands down, the worst date I've personally been on. This person was a nightmare and I wish there was some way for me to 'warn' other females about him.
I wish there was a rating system or way to leave reviews on dating apps
I mainly had this thought after going on, hands down, the worst date I've personally been on. This person was a nightmare and I wish there was some way for me to 'warn' other females about him.
I can see how this idea would bite me in the butt very easily, a lot of salty men and women could leave false reviews, and I know my experience wouldn't necessarily be someone else's experience, but something should be done. I know you can report people, but if they 'unmatch' you or delete their profile, there's no way to report them afterwards.
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Reliable dating apps/websites in 2023
It seems like all the current app’s available are just predatory scams targeted mostly at lonely gullible men. Charging obscene amounts of money for arbitrary things like viewing pics and all the blatantly obvious fake profiles. Bumble is the worst offender in this regard. Men cant even initiate conversations on that app. But they sure as hell like to climb in our pockets and nickel and dime us for everything. I even looked up reviews for Eharmony and apparently you have to pay just to look at pictures on there now too. I just want to make a profile and pay one flat monthly fee without all the add-ons and extra crap they throw in to take your money. Anyone know of any websites or apps that play no games and have actually worked for them? At this point I would be happy just securing a date let alone finding love. No hook up sites either. Im trying to find my person. Thanks.
Reliable dating apps/websites in 2023?
It seems like all the current app’s available are just predatory scams targeted mostly at lonely gullible men. Charging obscene amounts of money for arbitrary things like viewing pics and all the blatantly obvious fake profiles. Bumble is the worst offender in this regard. Men cant even initiate conversations on that app. But they sure as hell like to climb in our pockets and nickel and dime us for everything. I even looked up reviews for Eharmony and apparently you have to pay just to look at pictures on there now too. I just want to make a profile and pay one flat monthly fee without all the add-ons and extra crap they throw in to take your money. Anyone know of any websites or apps that play no games and have actually worked for them? At this point I would be happy just securing a date let alone finding love. No hook up sites either. Im trying to find my person. Thanks.
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Most of online dating is just playing games. And is a waste of time
I know it's not a new revelation or anything, but why the hell do men and women do this?
Most of online dating is just playing games. And is a waste of time
I know it's not a new revelation or anything, but why the hell do men and women do this?
For a person who's honest, straight forward and knows what I'm looking for, which is a real relationship, and doesn't want to waste time, it feels like online dating is just the worst way to find this.
But what alternatives are there? Covid has everyone on lock down but even before that, people don't really approach people anymore in person, that I've seen. Everyone just kinds of stays to themself.
I have to admit that I have social anxiety, and don't really go out bc of my health problems, but at least people used to talk to people before online dating was as huge as it is now.
Best alternatives to online dating
My profile pictures are mostly full body, by myself and I tailored my bio to say my qualities, interests and career. I have had women give me feedback to sharpen it up.
Best alternatives to online dating?
So I am an Asian male 26 years old 5’10” and I have actively used every major dating app. Tinder, bumble, hinge, coffee meets beagle, OkCupid, match… you name it I’ve tried it. And I cannot get matches or even likes. I know statistically Asian males have the worst rate for obtaining likes. I’m not bad looking, I’m well groomed and have a very well paying job.
My profile pictures are mostly full body, by myself and I tailored my bio to say my qualities, interests and career. I have had women give me feedback to sharpen it up.
What sort of alternatives are there for online dating beside spending a ridiculous amount on money on a match maker? And is paying for premium features on these apps even worth it? I’m losing hope and I don’t understand how a successful, tall, attractive Asian guy is undesirable.
It seems like no one in their early 20s wants to date on a dating app
I don't know if it's just my age group but none of my matches have actually wanted to go on a date and majority of them don't even respond at all. Either that or they'll respond a few times and then disappear. Like the other day, I matched with this one girl and it turns out we're into the same sport and we were really going into detail talking about it. She really knew what she was talking about too so it wasn't just me going on and on about it. Then we start talking about what college she's at and when I ask what her major is she unmatched me.
It seems like no one in their early 20s wants to date on a dating app
So, I'm in my early 20s and have been on dating apps for 8 months now. I've gotten a lot of matches across a variety of apps but none of them have lead to anything. The reason I'm on dating apps is because I'm looking for a relationship but it seems that majority if not all of the people that I'm matching with aren't looking for the same.
I don't know if it's just my age group but none of my matches have actually wanted to go on a date and majority of them don't even respond at all. Either that or they'll respond a few times and then disappear. Like the other day, I matched with this one girl and it turns out we're into the same sport and we were really going into detail talking about it. She really knew what she was talking about too so it wasn't just me going on and on about it. Then we start talking about what college she's at and when I ask what her major is she unmatched me.
I feel like dating apps just really suck when you're in your early 20s. It seems like most people are just looking for validation, hookups, or just someone to talk to. I'm also in a huge city which I feel like also hurts my chances with OLD. I feel like for those who are actually looking to date they have so many choices that they're going to be really nit picky with who they actually match with. I'm curious if other people in their early 20s are also having the same experience.
Giving out your number on dating apps
Just wondering how do others manage giving out there number on dating apps. My rule is usually to use the video call feature first, and if the conversation as well as the energy is good, move things off the app and onto cell phones. But I’m wondering like how many number exchanging is too many at a time? How long should a conversation be on the app before exchanging numbers? Recently I feel like guys are asking for numbers quicker than usual and I don’t want to entertain too many of them at once. Also, while conversations have been okay, I don’t have a full spark with any of them yet. I used to use the free text apps but the issue there is that guys usually want to video call and it doesn’t allow this. I would love to hear how others are handling this. Thanks!
Giving out your number on dating apps
Just wondering how do others manage giving out there number on dating apps. My rule is usually to use the video call feature first, and if the conversation as well as the energy is good, move things off the app and onto cell phones. But I’m wondering like how many number exchanging is too many at a time? How long should a conversation be on the app before exchanging numbers? Recently I feel like guys are asking for numbers quicker than usual and I don’t want to entertain too many of them at once. Also, while conversations have been okay, I don’t have a full spark with any of them yet. I used to use the free text apps but the issue there is that guys usually want to video call and it doesn’t allow this. I would love to hear how others are handling this. Thanks!
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Do you use your real first name on dating apps
Do you use your real first name and what do you think when people don’t?
Do you use your real first name on dating apps?
I(49F) recently chatted with a guy (59) who told me after several chat messages and a little bit into a phone call his real name which was nothing like his profile name. I was surprised it wasn’t the same and he said most girls don’t use their real name.
Is this true? What about you folks? I just use my real name because why not…no one’s going to use my first name to figure everything out about me unless I chat further with them. It just feels like starting with a lie otherwise.
Do you use your real first name and what do you think when people don’t?
Edit: consensus is split but it at least bothers me a less if other people do it now, as I understand why better. How soon they tell me after we start taking will also matter. Thank you for responding!
Why do men outnumber women on dating apps
I have a simple question about online dating in general that is really bugging me because I can’t find a satisfactory answer anywhere. I’m hoping some of you can enlighten me. Why is it that there are so many more men than women on most dating apps? According to a cursory Google search, men supposedly outnumber women 9:1 on Tinder, 7:3 on Bumble, 5:1 on Match.com, etc. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of those numbers but there does seem to be a consensus that men vastly outnumber women in online dating. The sex ratio in the general population is close to 1:1 in most places, so this means that men must be much more likely than women to use online dating apps, but I don’t understand why this is. One explanation I’ve heard is that women get discouraged from online dating because they get swamped with messages, but that doesn’t explain anything. For one thing, presumably men get just as if not more discouraged from getting very few matches and having most of their messages be ignored. More importantly, women only get swamped with so many messages because the sex ratio is so heavily biased, so how did it get biased in the first place? Another explanation I’ve heard is that women don’t need dating apps because they have an easier time than men getting dates IRL. But this also makes no sense, because for every straight woman who finds a relationship IRL, there must also be a man who finds a relationship IRL at the same time. The only explanation I can think of is that perhaps women are more likely than men to want to stay single, but I can’t think of any obvious reason why this would be the case. I can see why men outnumber women on “hookup” apps like Tinder, because men are more likely to be interested in casual sex, but this doesn’t explain why men still vastly outnumber women on relationship-oriented apps like Match.com. Can someone explain this to me?
Why do men outnumber women on dating apps?
I have a simple question about online dating in general that is really bugging me because I can’t find a satisfactory answer anywhere. I’m hoping some of you can enlighten me. Why is it that there are so many more men than women on most dating apps? According to a cursory Google search, men supposedly outnumber women 9:1 on Tinder, 7:3 on Bumble, 5:1 on Match.com, etc. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of those numbers but there does seem to be a consensus that men vastly outnumber women in online dating. The sex ratio in the general population is close to 1:1 in most places, so this means that men must be much more likely than women to use online dating apps, but I don’t understand why this is. One explanation I’ve heard is that women get discouraged from online dating because they get swamped with messages, but that doesn’t explain anything. For one thing, presumably men get just as if not more discouraged from getting very few matches and having most of their messages be ignored. More importantly, women only get swamped with so many messages because the sex ratio is so heavily biased, so how did it get biased in the first place? Another explanation I’ve heard is that women don’t need dating apps because they have an easier time than men getting dates IRL. But this also makes no sense, because for every straight woman who finds a relationship IRL, there must also be a man who finds a relationship IRL at the same time. The only explanation I can think of is that perhaps women are more likely than men to want to stay single, but I can’t think of any obvious reason why this would be the case. I can see why men outnumber women on “hookup” apps like Tinder, because men are more likely to be interested in casual sex, but this doesn’t explain why men still vastly outnumber women on relationship-oriented apps like Match.com. Can someone explain this to me?
Edit: thanks for all the answers so far guys! It seems like a very common explanation is that women get bombarded with verbal abuse and harassment on OLD apps so they leave. Is this abuse common to all online dating apps or does it just occur on the apps that have a hookup reputation, like Tinder? What about apps like Match.com that have a reputation for only being for serious relationships? Supposedly the sex ratio is still skewed on Match. For those women who have used Match and other apps like it, do you still get harassed and insulted there? If not, why do you think there are a lot more men than women on those apps too?
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Why go on dating apps looking for friends
I know I may come off as rude or something for say this but I just need to know, why bother even using a (DATING) app if you're looking not looking to date and your just looking for friends or not ready to date. I'm sorry if I come off as rude but if you're not looking to date or interested in dating someone or looking for a serious relationship why are you even on dating apps which is for dating? I've just come along sooo many profiles on these dating apps claiming (not looking to date to date, just friends only) and when a girl actually answers my DMs or messages me and is like "hi just so you know I'm only looking for friends and friends only" like if you're not interested just say it like If you're not looking to date why the hell are you even on a dating app then?
Why go on dating apps looking for friends?
I know I may come off as rude or something for say this but I just need to know, why bother even using a (DATING) app if you're looking not looking to date and your just looking for friends or not ready to date. I'm sorry if I come off as rude but if you're not looking to date or interested in dating someone or looking for a serious relationship why are you even on dating apps which is for dating? I've just come along sooo many profiles on these dating apps claiming (not looking to date to date, just friends only) and when a girl actually answers my DMs or messages me and is like "hi just so you know I'm only looking for friends and friends only" like if you're not interested just say it like If you're not looking to date why the hell are you even on a dating app then?
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Online Dating - Tips from an Average Joe (with examples)
No, but I’m free on Z: Great! If you’re free aswell, set up on that date and follow the directions above.
Online Dating - Tips from an Average Joe (with examples)!
First of all, hey. How are you doing? This will be the first and last time I open like this. Unless you’re a model or Chris Hemsworth levels of attractive, you should never open up with “Hey” or “How are you?”. If you stop reading now and take anything away from this post, let it be this.
I’m a 24 year old male student, average plus looking, I’d give me a 6 or 7, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don’t have a fancy job or even a car, I’m a pretty average man who has had a great amount of success on dating apps. After lurking around and trying to improve my game and myself, I’d like to share what personally helped me improve my chances to translate a match into a date.
Disclaimer I'm a straight man, so I'll be sharing my experience talking and meeting up with Straight/Bi women. Most of the advice here can be applied for every person you meet online. Plus English isn't my first language and I'm translating all of these convos from my language, happy reading!
Opener 
Openers are important. They are. You should always think of a good one, with the balance of being witty, funny and charming, while not sounding too “try-hardy”. Sounds tricky, and at first it is, but a good opener improves your chance significantly to get a date with the girl you’re talking to. Still don’t think openers are important? I’ll share a story.
I live with two female roommates. We’re pretty open with each other and share stories about our dating lives quite often. One night we’re hanging out and we talk about dating apps, one thing led to another and they ended up both creating accounts that same night. They both got over 100 likes. In less than an hour. Woke up in the morning and one had 300 and the other 400. After 24 hours they both got over 999+ likes.
Point of the story is, if it wasn’t obvious already, women tend to have a lot more option than men on dating apps. For every girl you’re talking to, there’s 19 other guys texting her and sending her messages. 50% of those men will probably open with “Hey”, or “How are you doing?” or some variation of that. Men who want to improve their chances need to stand out of the crowd. If our appearance isn’t going to help us stand out, our opener will. So how do we do that?
Think to yourself “What do you like about this girl?” “Why did I swipe on her in the first place?” “What’s attractive to me about her?” Thought of something? Good. Take that idea/compliment/statement and add a little twist to it. Complimenting is always better than “hey”, but something even better is to take that statement and be playful or tease a little bit. I read a tip on the "dating advice" sub by LeatherDaddyLongLegs which I agree with- If you're going to compliment someone, compliment them on something they have control over. I’ll give a few IRL examples of openers that got me numbers. Bear with me since I’m translating from my native tongue to English:
Girl with a bio stating she’s studying engineering, has a dog in one of her pictures:
Me: “I’ll be honest with you, I just want to meet your puppy, but I haven’t found her on the app yet.” Her: “Haha it’s a he. Are you still sure that you want to meet him?” Me: “Sure, but make sure he doesn’t have any expectations. Maybe I’ll meet a cute engineer along the way.”
Girl with a bio stating her hobbies include singing in the shower, generic pictures:
Me: “I hope you like singing outside the shower as well, you can complete my duet while we cook dinner” Her: “Hahaha, I’m not sure that you want to hear me sing. But I am pretty good in the kitchen.” Me: “Stir-fry is my specialty, but I’ve got some more recipes up my sleeve. When we grab a drink, you can hint what you prefer”
And my favorite: Girl with generic picture, no bio or bio consisting of a random emoji (Like what the hell is that supposed to mean)
These ones are tricky and are pretty common. Go back to what I wrote before. Why did you swipe on this girl? Is it because she’s cute? Is it because she’s throwing off good vibes? Does she seem like a genuinely good person? Take that thought and add a twist. It’s like a cold open, but for dating apps. If you meet someone IRL, you can ask them a question about something fun, or you can make an assumption about her. This works in dating apps as well, do that and let the conversation flow from there.
“You seem like a fun person to be around, I’ll see if I’m right when we grab a drink”
“You seem like the athletic type, or did you just snap a cute picture to show off?”
Experiment with your openers, and don't be afraid to be daring. Don't play it safe, tease and have fun all while being respectable of the person you're talking to. By the end of the day, we're all here to enjoy ourselves.
Getting her off the app 
You thought of a witty opener, and she responded. Great! Now what?
Every person is different, some will give you a dry answer to your opener, some a “hahaha (add emoji here)”, some will give you some material to work with and some won’t answer (you can’t win them all). Your job is to get her off the app and into your phone/Snapchat/Instagram as smoothly as possible. Use texting as a means to an end, you’re not trying to build a connection via texting. You guys both swiped on each other. Take that as a hint that she’s attracted to you. My general rules of thumb to do this as effectively as possible are:
1.) No interview questions- You’re not trying to get to know her. You’re trying to get her on a date, so you can meet up face to face and get to know her then. NOT VIA TEXTING. Imagine this scenario:
You’re a girl with 20 messages in your inbox. 10 of them say “hey” (or some variation of that). She answers 3 of those messages because the guys follow rule 1 to an insane degree. She looks at the other 10. One asks her “What do you do for work?” She answers a dry answer. Another, “What do you do for fun?” She answers another short response. “How do you enjoy spending your spare time?” She doesn’t answer and gets off the app.
Texting shouldn’t be a chore and getting bombarded with questions isn’t fun. Interviews are dreadful enough, imagine if you got 10 interview questions every day. You probably wouldn’t answer them all, and eventually you wouldn’t bother with them all together. I'm guilty of texting the girl a lot before the date to get to know her. I learned that the effect is more negative than positive. If you don't have anything interesting to share or say, you're better off not texting at all.
2.) Text with a purpose- What’s your goal? Why are you texting her? Imagine texting like a path from point A to point B. Your job is to get from Point A (matching) to Point B (a date) as smoothly as possible. Don't make the mistake and mindlessly text her like I used to, navigate the conversation towards that. One way I like to do it is:
Me: “(Some statement on something we talked about), I’ll see if I’m right when we meet up for a beer. Or are you more into wine?” Her: “I like both to be honest” Me: “And when we grab a drink next week, what would you prefer?” Her: “Hahaha, well it would honestly depend on my mood.” Me: “Give me your number and we’ll see when we can make that happen.” Her: “Haha #####”
Always think a step ahead on how to navigate your opener into fun banter, from fun banter to hinting that you should go out, and if you get a good response from her, get her number.
3.) Banter > Questions – Asking questions is good for one thing- to get the banter rolling. If you don’t have information to work with, asking a good question can get the ball rolling and can get her to share more, which gives you more information to work with, which leads to better banter, which leads to a better chance of you getting a number. I’ll use an example where I ended up double-texting after she didn’t respond and got a number (and eventually a date):
Me: “Good thing my A/C is working so I can chill after being let out to dry”(Bad translation) Her: “Sorry, I didn’t see your message” Me: “Happens to the best of us. So how does your athletic side come into play?” (I assumed before that she had an athletic side to her) Her: “I was on the national gymnastics team.” Me: “Do you also do cartwheels and handstands on random objects in your apartment?” Her: “Hahahaha not really, I’ve gotten lazy” Me: “Too bad, that could’ve been a sight to behold. How about we get off this app and you give me your number?” Her: “Haha alright ######”
4.) Close on a high note – Don’t ask for a number out of the blue, because if you do that, you’ll mostly be brushed off, or worse, get ghosted. Look at the examples above. If you get a good laugh from her or if she’s responsive towards going out with you, it’s a good sign to try and close her number/social media. She’s much more likely to give to you as well. Worst case scenario she says no, brush it off and change the subject.
Setting up a Date 
Congrats! You’ve charmed her and you’ve got her phone number (I don’t do Snapchat or IG personally). Send her a text with a GIF (bitches love GIFs) or something witty and try setting up logistics. I’ll walk you through my thought process:
Ask her out to X activity on date Y, her response is.
Yes: Great! You’re all set, send her a text back that you’ll see her on date Y, you’re excited to see her or something sweet of the sort and end the conversation. Check back on her at the date that you’re going to meet up to make sure you’re set to meet up on that day.
No, but I’m free on Z: Great! If you’re free aswell, set up on that date and follow the directions above.
No: Okay, why did she say no?
“I’m busy, I won’t be able to” – Alright, at this point I’d brush it off and ask her when she’s available. If she doesn’t give me a definitive answer, I’ll send her something like: “That’s fine, hit me up and take care”, and stop talking to her. The ball’s in her court now and you shouldn’t be hounding girls who won’t make a little bit of effort to meet up. Remember, dating is a two-way street. Don't waste your time on people who won't give you the time of day.
If she does give you an answer, she’s interested and try setting up the date.
“I get off work really late”/”I have to study until late”’/”I’m too tired” etc. – This isn’t a hard no. She’s making excuses on why she can’t come. This is where persuasion comes in, convince her that you’re worth it, just make sure you’re not too pushy. I follow a rule I learned while I was working in sales:
If I get one "no"- Why did she say no? Agree with the reason and try to persuade and charm her otherwise. If you get a second no, drop it and talk to her at a different opportunity. Nothing is a bigger turn off than neediness, and the last thing you want is to pressure someone into doing something they're not comfortable with.
People are willing to sacrifice sleep and time if they believe they’re going to have a good time. I’ll share an example of something that happened to me last week, with a girl that lives 40 minutes from me (sadly I don’t have a car ATM):
(Background: We decided we’ll be spontaneous, that we’ll meet up today and she’ll drive to me, but it will depend on how she is after work)
Her: Hey, I think I won’t make the drive today :( (Not cancelling yet, just thinking about it) Me: It’s all good, we’ll find a different time. Her: Sorry, I know it’s not very spontaneous of me. Me: I expected more from you, maybe I’ll see your spontaneous side at a different opportunity. Her: Haha always have low expectations, I have to find the energy to make the drive (Warming up a little) Me: Grab a cup of coffee and drive. Worst case scenario that you’re exhausted and can’t drive home, you can sleep on my comfy couch. (Teasing a bit) Her: Hahaha what?? Instead of offering me to sleep in your room you’re offering me the couch? Me: You can order me a drink first before you jump into my bed Her: Haha Me: Anyways, if you’re feeling spontaneous hit me up. I’m going back to my books to study, they need some attention. Her: They deserve it haha! Alright, I have 11 minutes to decide. Me: (Insert happy GIF) Her: Alright I’ll come.
If you've come this far, thank you for reading and I hope you found this useful. Good luck and happy dating!
Thanks to everyone who upvoted and commented! It's always good to see other people's opinions and get another perspective. I'm considering writing up another one of these, but more along the lines of how I like to date-prep after the date is set up. 
Which app is worth it for 30 year olds
I've used all of the dating apps at one point in time, Tinder, Eharmony, okCupid, bumble, match, and hinge. I've had very little to no success on these. I took a break and now I want to get back in to being ignored and have my depression kick in again dating. However, I'm 34 years old. I feel like alot if apps have been turned into tinder. I'm looking for something more serious. Which is the best? Sadly, finding someone in real life won't happen since I don't go to bars and mingle with people or stuff like that. Online dating is my last hope.
Which app is worth it for 30+ year olds?
I've used all of the dating apps at one point in time, Tinder, Eharmony, okCupid, bumble, match, and hinge. I've had very little to no success on these. I took a break and now I want to get back in to being ignored and have my depression kick in again dating. However, I'm 34 years old. I feel like alot if apps have been turned into tinder. I'm looking for something more serious. Which is the best? Sadly, finding someone in real life won't happen since I don't go to bars and mingle with people or stuff like that. Online dating is my last hope.
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Online dating doesn t work for average men, right
But I see people suggesting online dating and similar stuff. Are they deluded? What is going on here?
Online dating doesn't work for average men, right?
I've noticed that online dating doesn't work for the average man. Their only way to find a partner is using social network. You need social proof, and a location where women will be receptive, such as a mutual friends party. If you lack this minimum of social status, you need to be tall or handsome. If you are an average and friendless guy, you will die alone.
But I see people suggesting online dating and similar stuff. Are they deluded? What is going on here?
Also note, I don't count hitting a mutuals DM on ionstagram as online dating. It requires social proof too.
Two years of using Online dating as a male. Here are my hot takes
These are my hot takes from using Hinge and Bumble for 2 years. I also have both male and female friends who also date using the apps.
Two years of using Online dating as a male. Here are my hot takes:
These are my hot takes from using Hinge and Bumble for 2 years. I also have both male and female friends who also date using the apps.

  
Overweight women have an easy time getting uncommitted casual sex from dating apps, but struggle greatly finding a relationship. In other words, a lot of guys are okay with having sex with an overweight woman, they just don't want their friends and family to know about it.
  
Men and women view dating from 2 different perspectives. Guys typically look at it as having a skillset: logistically planning romantic dates, reading signals, making moves and escalating. Women don't seem to look at it as something mechanical like that (at least not as much).
  
What hurts so bad about being friendzoned after a few dates is you two may have been objectively a very good match. She initially liked you and you had amazing convo chemistry. You just sucked at making moves and driving it in a sexual direction is all, and you blew your chance.
  
I think a lot of men are totally okay with waiting to have sex and taking things slow with intimacy, but we feel pressured on dates to make moves because we're terrified of being friendzoned. On a 2nd date, I'm literally thinking "you better kiss her goodbye extremely well or she's just going to go back to her other 300 matches." Pressures on. Usually if I'm entering 4 date territory, I start worrying I'm going to lose her if sex doesn't happen very soon. I know that sounds dumb, but it's what it definitely feels like.
  
If you date a lot, it truly starts feeling extremely disingenuous. Same date spots, same stories, same photos I show on my phone and even the same timing. But if I just totally wing it, I get much worse results I've noticed. It's like I have to stick to what works or else things have a less likely chance of progressing.
  
Some men would have been an excellent boyfriend, they just sucked at dating was all. Kind of like someone may have been an amazing employee, but just sucked during the initial interview process.

What are your hot takes?
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Live streaming and money apps have destroyed online dating
ik online dating has always been frowned upon but introverts like has benefited alot from it. nowadays all these girls want to do is live stream and won't even talk to you unless you're on their streams spending money on virtual gifts. then you have the others that ask for cash app etc without even intending to meet you. I never fall into that trap but it disgusts me that it's come to this. I can never find a genuine girl to have conversation and get to know cause all they want is money and donations for their streaming contents
live streaming and money apps have destroyed online dating
ik online dating has always been frowned upon but introverts like has benefited alot from it. nowadays all these girls want to do is live stream and won't even talk to you unless you're on their streams spending money on virtual gifts. then you have the others that ask for cash app etc without even intending to meet you. I never fall into that trap but it disgusts me that it's come to this. I can never find a genuine girl to have conversation and get to know cause all they want is money and donations for their streaming contents
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Is there a difference between e-dating, an online relationship, and a long distance relationship
but yeah, i dont know the difference, but i just kinda always assumed there was one, so, is there.
is there a difference between e-dating, an online relationship, and a long distance relationship?
i think the title says most of what im asking, but ill give some extra info regardless. ive always been under the assumption that the three things listed were different, but because me and my boyfriend are long distance and play videogames together, we often get called "e-daters" and such. we dont do anything PDA, just use gaming as a way to spend time together, especially on VR like rec room, beat saber, etc.
but yeah, i dont know the difference, but i just kinda always assumed there was one, so, is there.
edit: i do also want to say that my boyfriend and I have been together for nearly a year now, regularly face time, have met each other's family via facetime, but for financial and health limitations cannot cross continents to meet in person. (im from the US, hes from the UK)
Dating sim game online, very old almost 10 years back
more hints I remembered: The nerdy guy was I guess a painter or a writer you could gift him things like so. There was also something forest related I guess she used to meet a guy in the forest. You could name the girl. The guys were REALLY pretty. I guess it was anime but im really not sure because back then I didn't know what anime was.
Dating sim game online, very old almost 10 years back
hello I'm actually trying to find this game I used to play when I was a teen. it was a dating simulator game with a female protagonist. She had 2, 3 guys she used to talk to (in question answers, like a visual novel). There was one hot guy, one nerdy guy I guess there was a vampire too, I'm not sure. Then as you play along you end up with one. You can also give gifts to them. It strengthened the bond. it was a really interactive game and I can't remember the name I've been finding it for 2 hours now. HELP
more hints I remembered: The nerdy guy was I guess a painter or a writer you could gift him things like so. There was also something forest related I guess she used to meet a guy in the forest. You could name the girl. The guys were REALLY pretty. I guess it was anime but im really not sure because back then I didn't know what anime was.
IT WAS A FREE ONLINE GAME. A WHOLE STORY FROM START TO END. YOU STARTED WITH ALL 3 GUYS AND ENDED UP WITH ONE.
Four sims my sim met through online dating all have partners
My sim lives in Twinbrook. I’m trying to get one of my male sims to find a girlfriend, and I used online dating on the computer to do so. This is the first time I’ve used online dating. I sent some sims with dating profiles some messages after browsing their profiles, and checked back later and received messages. The first sim my sim invited over was married, and she rejected my sims romantic advances, so I said goodbye and she left. I accepted another sim’s message and invited her over, and they got to talking. This sim also had a partner. She too rejected my sim, so I said goodbye and asked her to leave. The same thing happened with the next two women. They both had partners.
Four sims my sim met through online dating all have partners.
My sim lives in Twinbrook. I’m trying to get one of my male sims to find a girlfriend, and I used online dating on the computer to do so. This is the first time I’ve used online dating. I sent some sims with dating profiles some messages after browsing their profiles, and checked back later and received messages. The first sim my sim invited over was married, and she rejected my sims romantic advances, so I said goodbye and she left. I accepted another sim’s message and invited her over, and they got to talking. This sim also had a partner. She too rejected my sim, so I said goodbye and asked her to leave. The same thing happened with the next two women. They both had partners.
I’ve heard sims can change their traits while creating their profile. I’m sure married sims also use online dating, but four sims having partners using online dating? I know it’s probably not a glitch, just surprised so many sims with partners have a dating profile. Does this usually happen?
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The real problem with online dating
I noticed this with my friends and observing people on holiday.
The real problem with online dating.
I noticed this with my friends and observing people on holiday.
The issue is every single guy is on these apps. A large percentage of married, in LTRs etc. If these guys were disqualified the pool of potential partners would be a lot smaller.
When you're out and about socially do you see droves of men approaching fit girls, No virtually never.
I know this is anecdotal but I've seen it enough times to believe it is the case.
What problems do you have with online dating
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What problems do you have with online dating?
I am putting together some material about online dating. I was wondering what type of problems guys usually have? I will be writing from a straight guy's perspective, but any feedback is welcome. Some obstacles I can think of are:

  
Women don't send you messages
  
Women don't reply to your messages
  
Women flake out after agreeing to a date
  
Not enough women in your area

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A Comprehensive Guide to Using Dating Apps
• Do keep it to a couple sentences
A Comprehensive Guide to Using Dating Apps
I'll fix formatting later. I typed this up on my flight home from Thanksgiving on mobile.

  
Intro
  
Mentality
  
Profile Setup
  
Swiping
  
Messaging Matches
  
Dates
  
About Me

Welcome to the wonderful world of dating apps! You have never been closer to meeting your future SO/hookup while making a bowel movement than you are today. This is going to be both exciting and ridiculous, at times, and that's a good thing! With the right mentality and profile you're going to be a happy active member of your local dating pool in no time.
Before you dive into dating apps, you need to get your head right. Jumping into dating apps days after an emotional breakup is not going to be a cathartic experience and you're going to end up feeling shittier than you did before you started. On the flip side, if you're a horndog college kid, take a second to make a proper game plan before you start. You'll avoid unnecessary pitfalls and save yourself a lot of time, energy and money.
There are 3 questions you need to ask/re-ask yourself before and while you're using dating apps. Those questions are:
Would I want to date someone like me/am I happy as a single person? 
The answer should be yes! If you are fundamentally unhappy with your life or who you are, you should not stake your future happiness on some prince charming/manic pixie dream girl swooping into your life to magically make you happy. Contrary to what Hollywood will tell you, that's not how happiness or relationships work. If you have low self esteem, you need to reflect on why that is and then improve the things that you can and learn to accept and love the things that you can't. Dating apps are only fun if you are not trying to derive your self worth from them!
Do I know what I'm looking for? 
Before you start swiping, messaging and going on dates, take a moment to think about what you're actually hoping to get out of the apps. This is critical for two reasons. Firstly, once you know what you want, it'll be easier to shake off the blunders and mishaps along the way e.g. if you go on an awful date and you can't contextualize it, it is just awful, period. An awful date is just a funny story for someone who knows they are just messing around/looking for a one night stand. For the person who knows they're looking for their future SO an awful date was clearly not that person. Being able contextualize a "failure" helps!
Secondly, you can be upfront with people about what you're looking for. This can be scary at first but it's 100% worth it. More on that later.
Is this still fun? 
This is the question you ask yourself every week at least. Swiping should be fun. Having interesting/entertaining conversations on the apps with strangers should be fun. Meeting a stranger for the first time should be fun. When you have a dry spell of swipes/get rude message/go on a terrible date you're going to have to be able to either learn to laugh about it with your friends/family or have the wherewithal to temporarily deactivate your account. Both options are preferable to falling into the trap of using the apps reflexively even when they're actively making you less happy.
I highly recommend reading the article "Fuck Yes or No" too. That article summarizes the perfect outlook for modern dating/friendships in general in my opinion.
3. Profile Setup 
Gat damn, you're still here!? Awesome! Let's set up your profile. Your objective here is to present the best version of your authentic self. You want to be honest about who you are, what you look like, what your personality is like, and what you like to do BUT you should still choose photos/write a bio that emphasizes your best traits, not your worst.
Your first photo should always clearly show your face, without other people who are roughly your age/gender. People want to know what you look like, and you aren't doing yourself favors by making it more difficult to pick you out or see your face.
Your other photos need to show your potential matches a couple other things: what your body type is, what your hobbies/interests are and evidence that you have friends. You're shooting for at least 4 photos. Each one should contribute in at least one category and between all the photos you've included all categories should be covered.
The more unique each photo is from the last, the better. This shows off more of your personality and gives your potential matches more opportunities to find things about you they can relate to. If every single photo is of you with your frat bros drinking budlight out of pastel koozies or duckface bathroom selfies your potential matches are going to assume you're douchey and/or basic as fuck because you haven't shown them anything to indicate that you aren't.
CONTROVERSIAL ADVICE: For guys, having at least one photo with women (in a platonic setting) is a plus, it's social proof that at least one woman you know doesn't consider you to be dangerous. Avoid couple-y photos.
Don't include solo selfies or couple photos. Sure there are exceptions to every rule, but in general neither type of photo sends the right message to your potential matches.
Again, your goal here is to be authentic and to show off your best characteristics.
• Do talk about your interests
• Do add some personality to your bio by using jargon from your hobby, an inside joke from your fandom, a goofy pun, a joke you'd actually crack in real life, etc
• Do keep it to a couple sentences
• Do leave a prompt or question that makes it easy for someone to start a conversation with you
• Do talk about what types of people you get along with
• Do NOT make a list of demands
• Do NOT include "fluent in sarcasm". Its not particular unique and while being sarcastic in the right context can be a legitimately funny part of your personality, summing up your whole personality that way will make people assume you're an ass
• Do NOT include meaningless cliches like "loves to laugh", "Jim looking for his Pam" or "let's go on an adventure". Everyone initially includes some cliches to start, but cliches are cliches because theyre so common and meaningless. The sooner you ditch them the better.
• Do NOT include your venmo account lol
• Do NOT talk down to other people on the app - it comes off as a little insecure e.g. "ugh I don't even know why I'm on this app!"
Every dating app penalizes the people who furiously swipe right on everyone. Don't furiously swipe right on everyone because you're just "throwing a wide net" it's a bad strategy and your profile will be shown to fewer people.
Your criteria for who to swipe on must be your own. There are pros and cons for swiping on more people or fewer people, I prefer fewer because when I hear a ding that I matched with someone I know it's someone I'd actually want to go on a date with. Again, whatever you decide, don't let part of your criteria be proving to yourself that you're attractive to men/women. You will invariably feel snubbed by people you weren't attracted to in the first place who rightfully evaluate you by their own criteria and decide you aren't the one for them either.
5. Messaging Matches 
This is the part of the process where people get the most tripped up. If you feel like this part of the process is the hardest, you're not alone. Virtually everyone else feels the same way.
The key, as always, is to have fun. If you overthink it too much, you're going to stress yourself out and disappoint yourself if your match doesn't respond. Remember, you already matched! That means that they already find you attractive, so there is way less pressure to say the right thing here than there is in, say, a bar.
Firstly, don't use lines from r/tinder, they're upvoted because redditors find them funny, not because your average match will respond positively to them. If your match is an avid Redditor this point is void. Send the worst pick-up line from top+all time to them and you both can rake in that sweet sweet karma.
My advice to my friends is to reuse the same intro 80% of the time. This intro should be something that makes it easy for your match to respond with a meaty response or that will otherwise tee you up for a fun conversation. I've had pretty good luck with ridiculous "would you rather?" questions or other similarly silly debate topics, but you should do whatever feels comfortable to you.
The other 20% of the time you may spot something really interesting or funny in your match's profile. Take a sec and send a first message that mentions it. Its good to show that you share interests and that you took time to read their profile. Bear in mind the message still needs to tee up a proper conversation. Just saying "I like that you like X" is a bad opener.
Your objective in this conversation is get a taste of your match's personality. For me, I look for matches who embrace the ridiculousness of my debate and are willing to banter about it. Sure, some people arent always into it, but that's ok! Remember failure is easy to contextualize if you know what you're looking for.
Sometimes you get no response, one worders, or conversations that fizzle almost immediately. Again, that's totally normal. Some people are boring as fuck, some people weren't that into you to begin with, some people are just too busy to deal with dating apps and are just about to uninstall. It's impossible to know why they weren't feeling it, so don't spend time worrying about. It's almost always not personal. Remember, if you find yourself getting frustrated ask yourself, "Am I still having fun?".
If you got a conversation going with someone cool, don't dilly dally for too long. Within 10 responses I'm usually asking for a phone number and setting up a date. Letting things drag out longer leaves too much time for your match to get busy with other plans or matches (remember, if they're a catch, they probably have other people hitting them up too). Besides, you won't know if you have chemistry until you meet up. Text conversations only give you a hint.
When you ask them out, be direct. Name a specific activity on a specific day and see if they're interested. If they are not interested in you they'll say "sorry I'm busy" with no follow up. If they genuinely are busy, but are interested they will propose another time/place.
I don't recommend trying to win over people who aren't interested in you. The whole point of dating apps is that you don't have to do that.
As other posters in this sub have said before, picking something that requires a low commitment is your best bet for a first date so that if it's going terribly you arent stuck in a boring/bad/dangerous situation. Studying together (if you're students), drinks, coffee, dessert are all good options. Bad/potentially bad options are an expensive dinner, a movie, cooking at your place, or a hike in the wilderness. Save these for date number two or later.
If youre like me, making conversation can be intimidating and difficult. Luckily, this is a total stranger! That's good for two reasons. First, even if you make an absolute fool of yourself, no harm done! Dust yourself off and try again with someone new. Secondly, you know virtually nothing about this person, asking basic questions about what they do, their family, how they spend their free time is a perfectly fine way to kick things off. From there, just ask followup questions about the most interesting thing they said and boom you're having a conversation that can go anywhere. Sometimes your date is the world's worst conversationalist - don't fret! Remember bad dates are just funny stories for later. Embrace the awkwardness and use it as an opportunity to practice for other awkward places you have to eek out a conversation. You are not required to have a bad time just because your date is awkward/doesn't click with you.
Things are going well, now what?
Be up front about what youre looking for, especially if you're just looking to get laid. It doesn't need to be the first thing out of your mouth, but definitely before you're on the way to the bedroom. Why? Well firstly it's the right thing to do. Secondly, extricating yourself from a situation where you inadvertently led someone on is hard and leaves you feeling icky. Third, being upfront about my intentions has led to every fwb arrangement I've ever had. Surprise surprise, sometimes other people are interest in casual sex too.
It went badly, now what?
It's sooo easy to end a bad date by saying something disingenuous like "Let's do it again sometime soon" or "I'll text you later". Controversial point, but I believe the mutual fade out is 100% acceptable after going on one or two dates. This only works if you didn't previously indicate that you would reach out again. This is how the majority of my dates fizzle out when there is no spark. If your date is still texting you after a date and you aren't feeling it, be a good person and let them down directly and gently. Ghosting or "one wording" someone is a dick move.
Who am I? I'm a 25 year old guy living in Seattle WA. I'm 6'1", I make an effort to exercise, dress appropriately for my work/social life and groom myself competently but nothing crazy - I get eczema when the seasons change, I breakout once in a while and before I started working out regularly I was incredibly underweight for my height. I'm also of an ethnicity whose men are generally ranked the the lowest as far as women's racial preferences for men. I tell you all of this to be completely upfront about what is and is not working in my favor because whether we like it or not apps are superficial.
I have been on dating apps on and off between relationships for about 5 years. Across Tinder, Bumble and Hinge I match with 50-100 people per year (lots of factors influence those numbers). Of those people, I actually meet ~15 of them in person and maybe one fifth of those feel like real mutual connections with whom I end up spending a meaningful amount of time. I have met new friends, a handful of reliable fwbs and two girlfriends through dating apps over the years
Other topics I was gonna talk about before I fell asleep on the plane:
• Reasons why having too many irons in the fire is bad for everyone
• Using dating apps while traveling
• "Dating apps are bullshit, I'm not getting any matches" and other signs it's time to reevaluate your criteria
I think I’m over online dating
There’s more but I’ll stop here for now. I always said I’ll probably meet my wife at the grocery store. I think I’ll stick to in person interaction for now. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
I think I’m over online dating
I get plenty of matches (bumble, tinder, hinge), but below are the types of things I deal with:

  
Feel like I’m interviewing women instead of having a conversation. It takes two or three times for me to ask them a question and they only respond with short answers for me to get bored. At least ask me a question or two to keep the convo going. We’re trying to get to know each other remember.
  
God forbid if I don’t respond back in the time they wanted me to. We all have lives, jobs, etc. I work for a sports team and stadium. I’m always doing events. Just cause you may not hear from me for a couple hrs shouldn’t be an end all. Especially if the conversation was flowing.
  
Many women I find are broken. What I mean is that they haven’t healed from past trauma, drama, and/or relationships. They carry all that baggage right into the conversation and wanna talk about their past relationships and what so and so did. This ain’t a therapy session. I am not certified. Heal before you try to find someone else.
  
I find people aren’t happy with themselves or are ashamed to be themselves. Physically or mentally. Online they have this whole persona, but is very different in person. Many fake or old pics. I’ve met a couple who when I see them I’m shocked. Might as well be two different people.

There’s more but I’ll stop here for now. I always said I’ll probably meet my wife at the grocery store. I think I’ll stick to in person interaction for now. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
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What do you do about dating at 25
So, the title may be a little blunt but I have seen many posts recently with girls complaining about a lack of guys around their age wanting to date.. but being a 25 year old male, who I’d say is a bit self/career focused but wanting that type of connection - I’ve kind of accepted, “hey, I’ll chase money/careers now and when I feel like I’m more established, it’d be easier to ‘pick out’ a girl a bit younger than me but who I feel I connect with to build with. It just seems girls around my age, go for men who are a bit older or more established themself but then turn around when their 28ish and single and complain about guys their age not wanting to date them? Is it just a giant shit-storm? I’d love to be able to build with someone from here on out - but it seems woman want the finished product now. Quite frankly it’s just got me a bit confused and I was wondering what other men thought. It’s not one direct question I guess but a question on theory . if this is a bit vague, I’ll do my best to elaborate on following responses
What do you do about dating at 25?
So, the title may be a little blunt but I have seen many posts recently with girls complaining about a lack of guys around their age wanting to date.. but being a 25 year old male, who I’d say is a bit self/career focused but wanting that type of connection - I’ve kind of accepted, “hey, I’ll chase money/careers now and when I feel like I’m more established, it’d be easier to ‘pick out’ a girl a bit younger than me but who I feel I connect with to build with. It just seems girls around my age, go for men who are a bit older or more established themself but then turn around when their 28ish and single and complain about guys their age not wanting to date them? Is it just a giant shit-storm? I’d love to be able to build with someone from here on out - but it seems woman want the finished product now. Quite frankly it’s just got me a bit confused and I was wondering what other men thought. It’s not one direct question I guess but a question on theory . if this is a bit vague, I’ll do my best to elaborate on following responses
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Does anyone have Online dating success stories to share
When I moved across country, I felt way more comfortable using dating apps BUT this was 2012! I found “shopping for men” a bit awkward at first and especially being a woman, more challenging. For instance, we know there are men who aren’t the best looking but upon meeting them, they have such attractive things about them. Unlike men, who are INITIALLY okay going for appearances, we need mental stimulation, personality, stability, etc. nowadays, People are so frustrated w online dating for various reasons. Does anyone have success stories that can help those who are burnt out keep going, making it worthwhile?
Does anyone have Online dating success stories to share?
When I moved across country, I felt way more comfortable using dating apps BUT this was 2012! I found “shopping for men” a bit awkward at first and especially being a woman, more challenging. For instance, we know there are men who aren’t the best looking but upon meeting them, they have such attractive things about them. Unlike men, who are INITIALLY okay going for appearances, we need mental stimulation, personality, stability, etc. nowadays, People are so frustrated w online dating for various reasons. Does anyone have success stories that can help those who are burnt out keep going, making it worthwhile?
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Is an 18 year old and a 16 year old dating weird
Edit: FYI I live in a state where Romeo and Juliet Law applies so he wouldn’t get into any legal trouble due to our relationship. Also I’m a junior and he’s a senior
Is an 18 year old and a 16 year old dating weird
Hi I’m a 16 year old girl dating and I just started dating a guy who’s 18. He’s really sweet, funny, and really smart and I don’t see anything wrong with the age gap but some people from our school seem to think it’s weird that we’re 2 years apart which is why I’ve been questioning it. Is this an ok age gap?
Edit: FYI I live in a state where Romeo and Juliet Law applies so he wouldn’t get into any legal trouble due to our relationship. Also I’m a junior and he’s a senior
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Someone used my gmail account in a dating site
Today I found out someone used my email for this dating website (OneAmour). I tried to log in by resetting the password so I could deactivate it (I successfully made it).
Someone used my gmail account in a dating site
Today I found out someone used my email for this dating website (OneAmour). I tried to log in by resetting the password so I could deactivate it (I successfully made it).
Just for the record, I opened every link associated with this website on incognito mode, including the password reset link. And I logged in with my email and password, I didn't use any other way of authentication.
Should I be worried? How the scammer could verify the mail without access to mine gmail account? (yes, the scammer veryfied the mail but there is no new activity in "My Devices" or "My Activity" in Google sites so I assume he didn't do it accesing to my Gmail, also, I did all of this in my desktop PC with Windows and Kasperky enabled)
The hatred for Single Moms on dating apps is appalling
I've no skin in the game, I'm in a relationship with a single father. We both wanted to date someone that was a parent. We met through a mutual friend, so I don't have dating app experience.
The hatred for Single Moms on dating apps is appalling!!
I've no skin in the game, I'm in a relationship with a single father. We both wanted to date someone that was a parent. We met through a mutual friend, so I don't have dating app experience.
But I was just reading an article about cringey dating profiles and they all are spewing straight up hatred of single mothers. It's actually kinda frightening the way they're talking about us.
I can be very blind to things that haven't directly affected me, so I had no idea how bad the hatred for Single Moms is.
Please ladies, if you're a single parent and on dating apps, be careful. This is next level incel stuff.
Edit: Please do read and understand the word "HATRED" in my post. There is no reason to HATE single mothers. These are vile hate comments about single mothers in dating profiles that I am talking about. Not the fact that they prefer childless partners.
Searching for old Dating Sim Flash Game
Hi there, I've been looking all over the place for an old highschool dating sim flash game.
Searching for old Dating Sim Flash Game
Hi there, I've been looking all over the place for an old highschool dating sim flash game.
The game had RPG elements, so you would have to level up your strength, charme and intelligence. Mostly this happened at swimming - there were also some competitions and I remember pressing buttons like crazy to swim faster. There were several dates and story lines with girls. And there was some fight with an opponent.
Thats pretty much all I remember. Any ideas??
Height and Dating Apps, Preferences
There is a lot of concern, frustration around height on dating apps and women's preferences. I do realize that the shorter a guy is the tougher it is to get matches, dates but I also think the worst thing you can do is start things off with a lie. What else are you lying about? If you start off dating from a position of jadedness or distrust, it will show and that can set you up for failure. Comments like 'x' height because apparently that matters is so cringy.
Height and Dating Apps, Preferences
There is a lot of concern, frustration around height on dating apps and women's preferences. I do realize that the shorter a guy is the tougher it is to get matches, dates but I also think the worst thing you can do is start things off with a lie. What else are you lying about? If you start off dating from a position of jadedness or distrust, it will show and that can set you up for failure. Comments like 'x' height because apparently that matters is so cringy.
I see all too often guys vent about height (just see the posts about Tinder height verification April fools) and while I understand the difficulty one has, I also see that some of the same guys ignore things within their control i.e. style, smiles (lackthereof), lifestyle choices, approachability etc.
Yes, it's try a few women want a guy 6' tall, that is not the majority of women. Conventional thought is a women wants a guy at least 3-4 inches taller than them but I know of women that are fine with a guy who is merely 1 inch taller or their height. Some are ok with a guy shorter than them. Confidence, approachability are usually as important if not more than being super tall. Your goal is not to attract more women but more women who like you for who you are but you can't do that if you lie or sabotage your profile, photos etc.
The more guys lie about their height, the more women have to counter with listing preferences, exaggerating their height because they get guys who lie often. Focus on what you can control and don't worry about other people. You can't control their preferences but you can control, influence how you carry yourself. In most cases it's lack of approachability holding guys back rather than merely height alone.
On a similar note, lots of taller women don't do as well on apps and again, it's not always based on height. Stand straight, carry yourself well, don't be afraid to make a first move. Guys don't discriminate against height as much as women do so the less selective you are, the more options you will have. Some additional deal-breakers/preferences for men, women here .
Edit: The women's responses should give some hope, optimism that not all or even a majority of women want guys 6' tall despite some bitter responses, comments. Be honest.
Are Dating Apps Really Worth It
I am 22(M). I recently got out of a two year LDR with a girl I really loved. The distance just killed the romance on her side. I’ve been lonely and wanting to get back into the dating scene. I downloaded Tinder and made a profile, I put down a bio about myself and pictures of me doing activities I enjoy. I am an outdoorsy person, I rock climb, and go hiking all the time. Once I started actually engaging with the app it just felt to be the most shallow experience I’ve ever engaged in. Every picture was just some girl posing in a bikini, it just didn’t feel right. I swiped No on like 50 people and yes on 3, and then I just deleted my account altogether. Maybe I’m just old school but I think I’d prefer to meet someone organically. Am I going to be missing out on the bulk of opportunity to meet new people by staying off all the dating apps? Does anyone actually have good experiences with them?
Are Dating Apps Really Worth It?
I am 22(M). I recently got out of a two year LDR with a girl I really loved. The distance just killed the romance on her side. I’ve been lonely and wanting to get back into the dating scene. I downloaded Tinder and made a profile, I put down a bio about myself and pictures of me doing activities I enjoy. I am an outdoorsy person, I rock climb, and go hiking all the time. Once I started actually engaging with the app it just felt to be the most shallow experience I’ve ever engaged in. Every picture was just some girl posing in a bikini, it just didn’t feel right. I swiped No on like 50 people and yes on 3, and then I just deleted my account altogether. Maybe I’m just old school but I think I’d prefer to meet someone organically. Am I going to be missing out on the bulk of opportunity to meet new people by staying off all the dating apps? Does anyone actually have good experiences with them?
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Are any dating apps actually worth it
I heavily think you should not need to pay a huge fine in order to use a dating app. So i did not pay for anything using these apps.
Are any dating apps actually worth it?
So I'm very new to online dating and I just went through an experiment trying to see what online dating would be like. I tried out like 10 different apps. The one's i still use are Bumble, Boo, Hinge, and CoffeeMeetsBagel.
I heavily think you should not need to pay a huge fine in order to use a dating app. So i did not pay for anything using these apps.
The past two to three weeks, I've concluded for the most part they feel like scams. You can make a profile and whatnot, but if it's not great, if your profile isn't good, if your message isn't witty (and some apps don't even allow you to message a person with premium) you do not get anywhere.
2-3 weeks isn't a ton of experience i understand, but it's enough to say i just think they're really not worth this much effort for so little in return.
I got 3 matches in that time. And none of them went anywhere.
Hinge, CoffeeMeetsBagel, and Bumble are probably the only ones i will keep using, but I'm not confident in any of them.
Do you find any apps useful? And is that price point worth the time you put in swiping for matches?
Someone keeps signing up for dating sites using my email, what can I do
I'm really sorry if this is the wrong place for posting this, but I'm at my wit's end. Over the last little while, I've been getting notifications of being apart of sites like Ourtime.com , Singleparentmeet.com , BBpeoplemeet.com , etc. I myself have never made these accounts, and whenever one pops up, I take immidiate steps to change the password and request it's deletion (I often find it, for some reason or another, impossible to navigate to the "my account" page on these sites.
Someone keeps signing up for dating sites using my email, what can I do?
I'm really sorry if this is the wrong place for posting this, but I'm at my wit's end. Over the last little while, I've been getting notifications of being apart of sites like Ourtime.com , Singleparentmeet.com , BBpeoplemeet.com , etc. I myself have never made these accounts, and whenever one pops up, I take immidiate steps to change the password and request it's deletion (I often find it, for some reason or another, impossible to navigate to the "my account" page on these sites.
I've reset my email password multiple times, and I have two step verification set up. What's going on here? How is this person (People?) able to sign me up for so much stuff?
Again, I'm really sorry if this isn't the subreddit for it. But i'm at my wits end. Do I just need to give up on my email entirely and make a new one?
What do you say when dates ask about your experience on dating apps
I just answered “fun!” and got a strange look in return.
What do you say when dates ask about your experience on dating apps?
I have gone out on a first date with a guy who was curious about my experience so far on dating apps.
He asked me “how has it been so far for you?” And I didn’t quite know how to answer because

  
It’s none of his business on a first date (I feel)
  
He’s likely wanting to know whether I’m looking for something serious or casual, or if I was multiple-dating (why not ask me directly?)
  
He wants to compare my experience to his own

I just answered “fun!” and got a strange look in return.
Is there a way to finesse this question?
Why do dating apps suck so much
Lots of talking stages that just die quickly. Lots of lazy openers on bumble and no response when I respond back. Like wtf you message me "hi" waiting for me to do all the work and then not respond back?
why do dating apps suck so much?
So I'm a 29 year old male who recently got out of a 6+ years relationship. I literally had bumble/tinder for a month and was like wtf is this so I deleted them. Here is what happened Girl 1: Invites me to the movie. We barely talk because we are watching a movie. I ask if she want to grab a drink after and she said she is not feeling well. Completely ghosts me. Girl 2: catfish. Same person but with a lot of extra weight. Girl 3: horrible. Too full of herself. Talked about her 3 masters and phd all thr time. Girl 4: pretty nice and fun. Only problem is that she is far, her work is far, and she goes to bed at 930. I rarely sleep before midnight.
Lots of talking stages that just die quickly. Lots of lazy openers on bumble and no response when I respond back. Like wtf you message me "hi" waiting for me to do all the work and then not respond back?
I'm just going to keep my current fwb for as long as we both could and that is good for now.
My my experience as a woman after two weeks on a dating app
The amount of messages I received were super hard to keep up with. Unless I wanted to be on my phone 24/7, I had to take a while to respond sometimes. Soon enough, I realized that I was being one of those girls that would just respond to a text without asking lead up questions… The thing is, I really didn’t mean to. I was just so overwhelmed that I was just trying my best to answer the text. I seriously would not realize I did that.
My my experience as a woman after two weeks on a dating app
I got out of a 4-5yr relationship more than a year ago, and had finally decided to download Hinge a little more than two weeks ago. Right away, I got so many likes that I could not keep up with, and hinge doesn’t let you see them all at once. Now, I would compare myself to a potato, but I’m skinny like a stick. I did not expect this at all, and it was really overwhelming. I felt bad rejecting most of the matches, so I decided to give guys that I usually wouldn’t go for a chance.
The amount of messages I received were super hard to keep up with. Unless I wanted to be on my phone 24/7, I had to take a while to respond sometimes. Soon enough, I realized that I was being one of those girls that would just respond to a text without asking lead up questions… The thing is, I really didn’t mean to. I was just so overwhelmed that I was just trying my best to answer the text. I seriously would not realize I did that.
Then there came the times for dates or rejections. A lot of guys are super pushy and will make you really guilty if you want to wait to meet up. They’ll act as if they’re mad at you, and may start being rude. I’ve had someone demand a date from me, and that’s why I proceeded to ghost someone for the first time. Something I thought I’d never do. Since then, I have not checked the app, bc I cannot handle more matches.
Overall, these two weeks have made me realize why I heard so much stuff about girls being picky, ghosting, not engaging in conversation. I think some girls are super rude about it, no doubt. But I think a lot of other girls are simply overwhelmed with the amount of people they’re talking to. And the catch 22: you should give more guys a chance, but you’re a slut if you do so.
Edit: So many people are salty. You guys should probably check your blood pressure.
What are your experience with online dating like
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What are your experience with online dating like?
All of my real life lady friends are in committed relationships so they don't do online dating and I can't ask them this question. I was wondering what a woman who is over 30 experiences with online dating. Do you drown in matches? Get very few? Find the love of your life on it? Find your greatest foe? Get harassed?
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Women, what kind of messages you usually receive in dating sites
I was talking with a friend and she told me that 90% of the messages that she receives were rude/low effort, either the "hi", "how r u" type or some rude/sex related stuff, casually I found a reddit post focused on that topic. I'm wondering if this is a real thing that happens to the big majority of you, that u are bombarded with a lot of low effort/rude messages or if it's sth unlikely to happen, what are your thoughts?
Women, what kind of messages you usually receive in dating sites?
I was talking with a friend and she told me that 90% of the messages that she receives were rude/low effort, either the "hi", "how r u" type or some rude/sex related stuff, casually I found a reddit post focused on that topic. I'm wondering if this is a real thing that happens to the big majority of you, that u are bombarded with a lot of low effort/rude messages or if it's sth unlikely to happen, what are your thoughts?
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How to meet a nice weeb(anime liking) girl, when everything is closed due to covid? No gyms, no library, no conventions. Is online the best option? and what is the best app or website
Edit # 1 Anime is important because its really the only thing i can look for right now. I like rock climbing the rock climbing places are closed. I like going to the gym the gyms are closed. I like playing dnd the place where i go to play is closed, etc. So really anime, video games and rock music, not asking to find a perfect girl who likes everything but at least likes the main things i like.
How to meet a nice weeb(anime liking) girl, when everything is closed due to covid? No gyms , no library, no conventions. Is online the best option? and what is the best app or website?
So I got separated a while back, and now I am seeking a girl. Unfortunately I don't meet people that like anime at work nor school, since school is online on my city. Everything is pretty much closed and being honest I don't know where to look. Never really used online dating before so I am lost any help is appreciated.
Edit # 1 Anime is important because its really the only thing i can look for right now. I like rock climbing the rock climbing places are closed. I like going to the gym the gyms are closed. I like playing dnd the place where i go to play is closed, etc. So really anime, video games and rock music, not asking to find a perfect girl who likes everything but at least likes the main things i like.
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Sharing experiences regarding online dating in Germany
I've recently changed cities after finishing uni, I gave Bumble and Tinder a shot but I get almost* no matches. I did the usual stuff: asked female friends to (help) pick my photos, wrote a short bio, and added some hobbies and interests. My profile is in English as I'm more comfortable dating in English, but I also listed German under "my languages".
Sharing experiences regarding online dating in Germany
I've recently changed cities after finishing uni, I gave Bumble and Tinder a shot but I get almost* no matches. I did the usual stuff: asked female friends to (help) pick my photos, wrote a short bio, and added some hobbies and interests. My profile is in English as I'm more comfortable dating in English, but I also listed German under "my languages".
Do I just need to up my style/physique game? I would love to hear about your experiences so far (be it positive or negative). Thanks!
Late 20s / M / Southern Germany
No chemistry
Is instant "chemistry" what every expects these days? Sparks flying everywhere on the first meet? Does everyone think they will be happily ever after as long as there is first date "chemistry"? NEWS FLASH; this feeling has nothing to do with long term compatibility and 99% + sure that feeling will fade with time. What is incredibly frustrating is the epidemic levels of ghosting and abrupt cessation of conversation. I get it, it is "cool" and a nice feeling, but says nothing about how you will end up. If you are not attracted to them OK. Say that. repeat after me, "I am not romantically interested." Most immature/fragile egos out there that will get mad, but at least it is specific feedback and something they can work on. Yes, try losing weight or better hygiene.
"No chemistry"
Is instant "chemistry" what every expects these days? Sparks flying everywhere on the first meet? Does everyone think they will be happily ever after as long as there is first date "chemistry"? NEWS FLASH; this feeling has nothing to do with long term compatibility and 99% + sure that feeling will fade with time. What is incredibly frustrating is the epidemic levels of ghosting and abrupt cessation of conversation. I get it, it is "cool" and a nice feeling, but says nothing about how you will end up. If you are not attracted to them OK. Say that. repeat after me, "I am not romantically interested." Most immature/fragile egos out there that will get mad, but at least it is specific feedback and something they can work on. Yes, try losing weight or better hygiene.
"No chemistry" is very vague and doesn't help anyone. Mind you are probably passing on someone you would enjoy in the long run & instead chasing that fast hot passionate love affair.
I tried the PURE dating app for hookups, and it made me realise how desperate I am
I went back to my old trusty Hinge app that (had) got me some solid dates, and then I saw an advert for Hinge+ - another dating app with a subscription service. I eventually deleted my profile and the app (luckily, no subscriptions needed to be cancelled).
I tried the PURE dating app for hookups, and it made me realise how desperate I am
So like the title says, I tried the PURE app for hooking up and ended up canning it after 2 days.
Needless to say I didn't get any hookups or meet anyone, but that isn't why I ditched it (and the other dating app I've been on, Hinge). I ditched it because after 2 days it felt super predatory and I could imagine me easily rinsing away money on that app.
For anyone who hasn't used it, here is how it works:
You download and register on the app. You tell it if you are a man or woman, and then you go through uploading pictures, telling your "kinks" etc. Then you get to post your "ad" (a bit like a tinder profile, but you can scroll through the list) - but not after spending £24 on a monthly subscription.
Now at the point of being asked to spend £24, I would normally just walk away, but this app was recommended by an online friend, so I figured it can't be that bad.
So I get to the bit where folks are listing their ads, and I can see I can heart and/or give a gift (which effectively shows your profile right at the top of their queue). Giving a gift costs money, 5 of them for £7.99. At first, I try just sending a heart, but it turns out it lasts 24 hours, and quite likely, ladies are inundated with hearts because it is free and unlimited.
So eventually I think I got to chip in for the gifts to actually get recognised. And to my surprise, it works! I get a match! This match goes absolutely nowhere after a brief chat, but mentally I've made the connection that paid gifts = a chance of being matched.
So I go off sending gifts left, right, and center - hoping that women will catch the bait. Mostly nothing, a few rejections (fair enough tbh), very few matches. And then I realise I've run out, so I wait idly by hoping I can get some response. A few hours later, my monkey brain goes "well, why you wait, why not gift some more? Increase your chances?". So of course I did like a fool and sent some more. until I ran out.
It wasn't until the third time that I realised this is feeling a lot like those mobile games where you have to pay for virtual currency to buy some in game item to progress forward - once I realised it, I couldn't unsee it. It was at this point I just deleted my profile, uninstalled the app and cancelled the monthly subscription to the app. After I did that, it was like I could just see my desperation right in front of my eyes, it was so embarrasing. I also managed to rake up a personal bill of £48 - could've been so, so much worse had I not gave up the app.
I went back to my old trusty Hinge app that (had) got me some solid dates, and then I saw an advert for Hinge+ - another dating app with a subscription service. I eventually deleted my profile and the app (luckily, no subscriptions needed to be cancelled).
I am just so fed up wih dating apps and the constant haggling for money, especially for folks who are (were) desperate like me. Even worse, I hate that it worked and that the PURE folks got money from me. I just feel like such a lame sucker for letting my horniness and desperation get the better of me.
Is anyone here having LDR with someone you only met online
Edit: if you have the same or similar situation, could you give me some advice or tips? Thank you
Is anyone here having LDR with someone you only met online?
I met him on a language exchange app, we’ve talked to each other everyday for 2 months, and we’ve also FaceTime for like 7 times. Even I haven’t seen him irl yet, but I hopelessly fell in love with him, so is anyone here having the same or similar situation to mine? (I just wanna know that I’m not alone)
Edit: if you have the same or similar situation, could you give me some advice or tips? Thank you
Edit2: I read all of the comments, thanks for y’all commenting on my post and sharing your story/advice with me, I’m truly thankful for all of this, and I’m also happy to see so many LDR couples made it work!! Lots of us still dealing with the nevermets situation, but I believe all of us can make it work!! Thank you guys again, I’ve learnt a lot from you 🥰🙏🏻
Conversations that go nowhere
Just wondering if other guys experience this- it makes me almost want to just give up dating bc I feel it’s very evident via messaging if a girl is interested in you by her enthusiasm to message. Btw, I will say I probably need to lower my standards honesty. I think I’m a decent looking guy with very solid career (def socially awkward + live with my mom in my 30s which is very lol).
Conversations that go nowhere
Hey to guys here, do a lot of your conversations with females go nowhere?
I feel like 80-90% of girls I talk to have no plans to go on a date/ the convo just dies and they show no interest / will not respond after I make a comment or line so I stop messaging them (example I ask girls what they like to do for fun, I’ll then say when they ask and they will Not say anything so why would I message again?).
Just wondering if other guys experience this- it makes me almost want to just give up dating bc I feel it’s very evident via messaging if a girl is interested in you by her enthusiasm to message. Btw, I will say I probably need to lower my standards honesty. I think I’m a decent looking guy with very solid career (def socially awkward + live with my mom in my 30s which is very lol).
Last girl I went on date with was hung up I lived at home and have no near term plans to buy a house even though I could if I wanted to. I kinda lost interest though after she told me she does cocaine recreationally.
How efficient is online dating for most people
I read many threads saying that online dating is generally harder for men than it is for women and thus a waste of time and money for most people for several reasons besides fake accounts and bots:
How efficient is online dating for most people?
I read many threads saying that online dating is generally harder for men than it is for women and thus a waste of time and money for most people for several reasons besides fake accounts and bots:

  
People say that attractive and beautiful women( which are the most diserable by men) do not need to use OLD sites because they already have tons of men chasing her in real life and also most attractive women do not use OLD sites at all. I partially disagree but it is just their common sense warning other people-
  
Most women on dating sites are harassed and receive a lot of messages by guys and women do not like that and they either do not view the messages or leave the dating sites. People even say that a woman do not even need to be attractive to receive tons of boring messages. And since men are the ones expected to make the first move, it makes this situation even worse;
  
Many women are afraid of meeting a stranger guy after they talked to each other online which makes many women stay away from OLD;
  
Most dating sites have far more men than women due to some reasons which again make online dating harder for men.
  
Many people lie bout themselves in the profiles and put old pics of themselves when they were younger and more attractive;
  
Many women who use online dating sites are not serious. In other words they only use it to advertise themselves and inflate their ego without any intend to meet anyone or get a date or even a hookup. They are not there for legitimate reasons. If you want to use OLD to self promotion there are already camgirl sites and Instagram for that;
  
If you want a serious relationship like me you may get frustrated since many people online only wants hookups depending in the dating site. I read that most users on Tinder only want casual sex rather than a real dating;
  
Many OLD companies only care about revenue and profit but not care about satisfying their users. Some articles say that the most efficient they are less money they receive but I do not know why.
  
Unlike camgirl sites on OLD apps you are never sure whether you are seeing or talking to a real user profile, a bot or a scammer since it is so easy to create a fake profile, which contributes to make OLD unreliable;

-Many women who I was talking to and having a nice conversation suddenly ghosted me and I thought it quite offensive. I do not know the reasons behind this behavior but it is a common issue with Online dating. Ghosting is a curse on OLD.

  
Technically speaking in my opinion if I am interacting with a woman and even if there is attraction it is not dating at all.If I meet her and we go out and make sex and have kisses and fun together then that is a real dating otherwise just a friendship. Many people disagree though.

Men need to have a divide patience to be successful with online dating unless if they are rich or look like Brad Pitt and women too and they need to deal with harassment and boring and unexpected messages. Now I get the point when people say that OLD is a waste of time for average people.
I can compare OLD dating with gambling like lottery and casinos: The company convince you that you can earn money by playing games and paying a fee but in fact your chances of earning something is very slim. But rather than mathematics OLD deals with psychology. It is the other person who will decide to accept your match and talk to you but not the other guy. So your profile must stand out in the middle of millions of others.
My best advice: Please stop posting pictures of your kids on dating apps
I don't know when or why this started, but it's really disturbing. Please stop posing pictures of your children on random dating apps. I'm not going to choose to date you because of what your kids look like. They are too young to have a choice in the matter. and I guarantee you that when they get older they will be horrified to know their mother posted pictures of them for all the crazy eyes to see.
My best advice: Please stop posting pictures of your kids on dating apps.
I don't know when or why this started, but it's really disturbing. Please stop posing pictures of your children on random dating apps. I'm not going to choose to date you because of what your kids look like. They are too young to have a choice in the matter. and I guarantee you that when they get older they will be horrified to know their mother posted pictures of them for all the crazy eyes to see.
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How can I beat my dating app addiction
Also, I thought about timeboxing the messaging but it's pretty hard to do that and maintain an interesting texting rapport. Live chatting when both parties are online is far more conducive to connection. Find that is hard though because everyone has different schedules and so it makes it tempting to be online all the time.
How can I beat my dating app addiction?
I'm a 24 year-old guy and looking to meet a romantic partner and I think dating apps are a great tool for that, despite their inefficiencies/issues. However, I find them incredibly time-consuming and often it becomes a sink of my time. I recently tried putting a time limit of 30 minutes/day and blocking them all day except for 6:30-9 PM but found that it was difficult to maintain all the conversations that way.
People also say its a numbers game. This makes it even more challenging because I have to continually swipe through girls and maintain conversations with multiple girls because I know that maybe 90-95% will not match, ghost, or flake. On hinge, even swiping is time consuming because girls prefer that you comment on something interesting on their profile. Which I don't mind but it seems excessive when you think about the sheer number of girls on there and the fact that most are going to ghost.
Also, I thought about timeboxing the messaging but it's pretty hard to do that and maintain an interesting texting rapport. Live chatting when both parties are online is far more conducive to connection. Find that is hard though because everyone has different schedules and so it makes it tempting to be online all the time.
How I can use the dating apps less, keep my sanity, and still find the connection I'm looking for?
The holidays and dating
What exactly do you do if you are single, didn't have too much luck with dating from January to November; now it's the holiday season. People are travelling, spending time with family and stuff. What exactly are you doing on the dating arena?
The holidays and dating
What exactly do you do if you are single, didn't have too much luck with dating from January to November; now it's the holiday season. People are travelling, spending time with family and stuff. What exactly are you doing on the dating arena?
Kudos to the folks who were lucky from January to November; this just reminded me yet another year is over and things didn't change.
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Online dating is like gambling
It’s like playing that game at the fair with the ducks in the little pond. You are picking up ducks, hoping to find the one that has the prize. But it’s a game of chance.
Online dating is like gambling
It’s like playing that game at the fair with the ducks in the little pond. You are picking up ducks, hoping to find the one that has the prize. But it’s a game of chance.
Here is what I find frustrating about it. There are some people in the world you have really good chemistry with, and some people you don’t. But there is nothing on an online profile that will tell you that. So instead, we filter out through superficial things (they have a cat, or they say they drink “often”, or they are catholic, etc.)
So we can very well be missing out on people that would be amazing partners, and meanwhile, we might be pursuing people who are absolutely no good for us.
Is online dating just not for me
On the other hand, I was talking to another person who I felt more attracted to who ended up unmatching me. I had actually ghosted him before after he continued to ask me how open-minded I am sexually and just getting the vibe he wasn't looking for anything serious. But I decided to be honest with him after he reached out again and explained that I wasn't sure I was up to his level of open-mindedness towards sex. At first, he was saying he's also looking for something serious (probably true) and likes vanilla sex too. Asked me out and I ended up agreeing even though I was still unsure about it. And then for the 3rd time, asked me about how open-minded I am sexually. I asked him if he could elaborate because that could mean a lot of things. But then I decided to just be straight up and sent him a paragraph on all the things I thought he could be talking about (monogamous relationships, anal, BDSM) and mentioned it's kind of weird to talk about this before even attempting to talk about anything else. He ended up unmatching me right after lol. But the annoying thing is, he literally mentioned in his profile that he enjoys genuine connections and intellectual conversations, and that empathy is important yet the only thing he wanted to talk about is my sex life.
Is online dating just not for me?
I decided to give Hinge a shot, as I have heard that it's taken more seriously and less about hookups. I've been on it for a couple of weeks now, and it's been nothing but exhausting and disappointing.
After today I just want to give up on online dating altogether. I went on a date with a guy last weekend, he was very nice, and the conversation was easy. However, I didn't feel any sort of spark or attraction to him and felt more of a friendly vibe. Towards the end of our date, he seemed in a hurry to leave and did not attempt to hug or anything before he left. So I assumed that he probably felt the same way. But ever since, he has been messaging me every day, and the conversation just feels boring and pointless. After asking about a second date, I decided to tell him how I felt, but also said I wouldn't be opposed to a second date. I'm not usually the one in the rejecting position and I just wonder if I'm doing the right thing and feel horrible. Part of me feels that maybe it would be better to give him one more chance, but I just have a feeling that I already know this isn't going to work.
On the other hand, I was talking to another person who I felt more attracted to who ended up unmatching me. I had actually ghosted him before after he continued to ask me how open-minded I am sexually and just getting the vibe he wasn't looking for anything serious. But I decided to be honest with him after he reached out again and explained that I wasn't sure I was up to his level of open-mindedness towards sex. At first, he was saying he's also looking for something serious (probably true) and likes vanilla sex too. Asked me out and I ended up agreeing even though I was still unsure about it. And then for the 3rd time, asked me about how open-minded I am sexually. I asked him if he could elaborate because that could mean a lot of things. But then I decided to just be straight up and sent him a paragraph on all the things I thought he could be talking about (monogamous relationships, anal, BDSM) and mentioned it's kind of weird to talk about this before even attempting to talk about anything else. He ended up unmatching me right after lol. But the annoying thing is, he literally mentioned in his profile that he enjoys genuine connections and intellectual conversations, and that empathy is important yet the only thing he wanted to talk about is my sex life.
Which I get that stuff is important, but ugh. I can't figure out which is worse, rejecting someone or being rejected. And honestly, I've been trying to keep an open mind and not be so choosy on who to match with, but it just seems that genuine connection is impossible for me on dating apps. I'm not bad looking, but I am overweight (180, 5`5). Had my hopes up for Hinge but doesn't seem much better than Tinder. Maybe I'll just accept my fate and adopt some more cats and buy some plants. For anyone who has read this far, thanks for listening to my rant lol.
Are there any dating apps that are just open chat rooms by zip code or similar
i was swiping yesterday, and realized how fucking nearly impossible it is to communicate to anyone on these things anything about yourself or express yourself. i honestly feel that is by design. they want to limit this, so that they can sell it back to you. if the dating sites are actually effective, they work themselves out of a job.
are there any dating apps that are just open chat rooms by zip code or similar?
i was swiping yesterday, and realized how fucking nearly impossible it is to communicate to anyone on these things anything about yourself or express yourself. i honestly feel that is by design. they want to limit this, so that they can sell it back to you. if the dating sites are actually effective, they work themselves out of a job.
i remembered the absolute meme of AOL chatrooms. yes, i realize im old, thanks. having an open group chat room is much more effective than what these apps do. an open chat room is more like the social situation of a bar or a coffee lounge. people are just having innocuous conversations and basically anyone can join in and be heard to express themselves. theres less pressure and people are more open because not every exchange is immediately about hooking up or relationships. theres not the instant pressure of whether this conversation is turning into a relationship with a total stranger. its just joking around and fun and laughs. not this cringe mix of desperation versus guarded emotional walls.
this is not a new concept, its even older than AOL chat. before computers/internet, they used to have "phone chat party lines", which was like a discord chat room for singles you would join via a phone number. just several to a dozen people in a group voice chat. (no, im not THAT old to have used these, but im old enough to remember them being advertised when i was in elementary school).
i was thinking, it would be cool if there was a dating app where theres no swiping. you have a profile and some pics, but you open it, and youre just dumped into a chatroom with people in your zipcode/city/region/neighborhood/whatever. you cant even see offline profiles. theres nothing to do except read this chat or type into it, so its not just some timewaster app for self validation as the current ones are. there could be some features to DM. much like a bar, you can have this public conversation at a table of six, and if you vibe with someone you can move to a more private table for two, to focus more on each other. if thats not working out, you can just rejoin the group and look for someone else.
the other thing the modern dating apps are absolutely stupid about is location. always tempting you with "see who likes you" from people 1000 miles away. who gives a fuck. it could be a drop dead bangin model actually into me. im not hopping on a plane. i dont even want to see people 100 miles away. ever. i realize it makes the pool smaller, but if you are serious about dating, practicality matters more than just having a pen pal.
does anything like this exist? do you like the idea? hate it? what problems would need to be solved?
Think of online dating as just a way to chat
After that it's just a game to have an interesting conversation. I do suggest referencing something short from the person's profile so they know you read it.
Think of online dating as just a way to chat
I've been online dating for decades, it has been so disheartening and stressful. I feel I have a lot to offer, why wasn't I succeeding?
Well now it's going great. Why? I don't take it so seriously. I took the time to make a profile that describes who I am, I have multiple up to date pictures that show my face & body and show me smiling. I've done my part, now I just look at profiles for someone interesting.
After that it's just a game to have an interesting conversation. I do suggest referencing something short from the person's profile so they know you read it.
Sure, I get disappointed when a person doesn't write back, but if they don't, and one additional message doesn't restart the conversation that's fine! More people out there to chat with. If we are good at keeping each other interested and/or entertained we can try to keep that going in person.
I used to put so much pressure on it to find "The one." If they're the one, it will start with an interesting or fun conversation.
Why online dating is a complete waste of time for average guys. And it will never work
Really attractive people can circumnavigate this system however, because they attract people regardless of what platform they use. Dating apps focus heavily on appearance, and thus more attractive people aren't as beholden to the sites rigged algorithm, because they have a higher likelihood of getting matches.
why online dating is a complete waste of time for average guys. And it will never work.
Dating apps have become a scam perpetuated from the top. Match group is a company that owns most of the mainstream dating apps; Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, Hinge (I think), etc. Their only goal is to extract money from lonely guys, nothing more. Match group found out quickly that there is a lot of potential money to be made by hook-and-lining desperate men, and they've reformulated most of their apps to follow this business model: they work the algorithm to ensure that you find as few potential matches as possible for the free version, and increasingly spoon-feed you better options behind increasingly expensive paywalls.
The idea is that if you're desperate enough, you'll keep paying for more and more expensive premium options to unlock features that used to be free only a few years ago. They don't want you to find love; they want you to fail and fail and fail so they can grow rich at your expense; just like casinos. In fact, I believe I read some research at one point that said that swipe-based dating apps feed our brain in the same way that slot machines do. Many sites even "prime the pump" with bot accounts to make it seem like you're getting likes, but in reality it's just a con to get you to buy premium so you can see who's liked you.
Really attractive people can circumnavigate this system however, because they attract people regardless of what platform they use. Dating apps focus heavily on appearance, and thus more attractive people aren't as beholden to the sites rigged algorithm, because they have a higher likelihood of getting matches.
Years ago, some dating sites were still pretty good and offered a lot of options for free. But now, I'd say for the average person, you'd probably have much better luck finding someone through mutual friends or through a hobby or other internet outlet. I think I read once that World of Warcraft has actually created more relationships/marriages than most dating sites (that may just be a myth, though).
Why do people think dating on video games is true love
I also wanted to mention that I've protested this many times in custom games. But it seems everyone that the butthurt army can't handle it. So they abuse me and kill me many times until I leave the game. There's a good reason why I lost faith in these neckbeards. The gaming industry is just filled with toxic compulsive whinny babies. And don't even say that's a low percentage. There's so many people out there that get too angry that their religion is their own KDR. And since there's so many assholes on video games. I don't understand why people continue to keep finding love because it's not safe and trustworthy as well. Who knows if you're being scammed, cat fished, or even taking dares from someone that you don't know. Like grow up please. Well let's see how you people respond to this
Why do people think dating on video games is true love?
I've done this before on the gaming sub-reddit and people got pissed of what I had to say. It's probably because they're already with some gamer girl who were both anti-social. Hopefully I can hear better responses from this one. So with the StopGaming. Over years I have been seeing people date on video games. It's like what has the world came to? Have people been disconnected with reality and are they socially inept and can't find love in the real world? Like High School, College, Work, I mean there are dating apps out there too to use for that. But no, people disagree because they can't help their gaming addiction and interest to find love in this fantasy land. So a game like Overwatch, where it's a first person shooter genre. How do you date? Do you point guns at each other while talking? Fucking stupid. I can totally understand if you want to meet someone in real life through a game. Just don't date on a video game. Wtf?
I also wanted to mention that I've protested this many times in custom games. But it seems everyone that the butthurt army can't handle it. So they abuse me and kill me many times until I leave the game. There's a good reason why I lost faith in these neckbeards. The gaming industry is just filled with toxic compulsive whinny babies. And don't even say that's a low percentage. There's so many people out there that get too angry that their religion is their own KDR. And since there's so many assholes on video games. I don't understand why people continue to keep finding love because it's not safe and trustworthy as well. Who knows if you're being scammed, cat fished, or even taking dares from someone that you don't know. Like grow up please. Well let's see how you people respond to this
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Cozy games that focus primarily on dating
I thought I was really going to like Stardew Valley, because I think the dating aspect of a game like that sounds super fun, but the game didn't focus on romancing nearly as much as I wanted it to. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not looking for VNs, I want to do other things besides romancing, but I want to do mostly romancing. Steam Deck support would be awesome, but PC or Switch is fine as well. Thanks in advance!
Cozy games that focus primarily on dating?
I thought I was really going to like Stardew Valley, because I think the dating aspect of a game like that sounds super fun, but the game didn't focus on romancing nearly as much as I wanted it to. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not looking for VNs, I want to do other things besides romancing, but I want to do mostly romancing. Steam Deck support would be awesome, but PC or Switch is fine as well. Thanks in advance!
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Are there any dating sites that haven t been bought up by and whored out by greed
Yeah echoing what a earlier thread says, I have returned to OKC after nearly a decade and its just.. trash. Limited likes, paywalls etc. The same goes for POF. I used to get a lot of matches and even a few dates. Now I have absolutely zero luck on all the apps. It's all gone into this garbage swipe/like bullshit with tons of paywalls. Basically our very basic human desire to find a mate in life (you know, this foundational desire to feel love and company, as per Maslowe's heirarchy of needs) has been monetised by these greedy fucks at match.com .
Are there any dating sites that haven't been bought up by match.com and whored out by greed?
Yeah echoing what a earlier thread says, I have returned to OKC after nearly a decade and its just.. trash. Limited likes, paywalls etc. The same goes for POF. I used to get a lot of matches and even a few dates. Now I have absolutely zero luck on all the apps. It's all gone into this garbage swipe/like bullshit with tons of paywalls. Basically our very basic human desire to find a mate in life (you know, this foundational desire to feel love and company, as per Maslowe's heirarchy of needs) has been monetised by these greedy fucks at match.com .
I am not a good looking guy to be honest. I am no model. But I do at least try and make the best photos of myself, and my profile is well fleshed out. For the past 3 years I have had little to no luck. Before that though (period between 2012-2015) I sent out messages, I got replies back and even pulled a few dates here and there.
Really fuck match.com they can burn in hell for an eternity.